Mission Statement:
To share information about sociopathy and sociopathic behavior in everyday life. “It’s as though there’s a dangerous fish in all the waters of the world, that is never mentioned” — not if I can help it. The psychology, law enforcement, therapy, marital counseling and adoption communities have been grotesquely irresponsible in their public silence on a subject that they are well aware of. I seek to counter that.
Welcome to The Path Whisperer. I’ll be seeking stories of possible sociopathy (focusing on sociopathic behavior and thinking patterns) in daily news and current events. Our popular culture is already soaked in sociopathy. The only thing missing is recognition. The only joke in Borat was that he wasn’t joking. There are movies made for adults based on bodily functions. Parents can’t understand their teens’ wildings — sociopathic teens, feeling no need for restraint, have raised the bar, and teens being teens strive to outdo their peers. Sociopathic cruise passengers have figured out they can commit crimes with impunity since the cruiselines won’t want the publicity of an investigation and prosecution (a sociopath’s dream) – sociopathic cruiseline employees have known this and pushed the crime envelope for years. Sociopathic teen criminals will often videotape their cruel exploits (sociopaths are essentially non self-referential, they need a mirror and comments from others). Millions of parents wonder why a child behaves the way he or she does — they have been lied to about the true cause of their children’s behavior. No one tells adoptive parents of the risk of a sociopathic child (the progeny of unhappy seductions by sociopaths are often put up for adoption). The phenomenon of sociopathy is everywhere but the recognition of it is not. I truly believe the world is anxious for this discussion.
Without going into them here, I will also be touching on related matters: the relationship between sociopaths and incest; sociopaths and the rigidly narcissistic and/or the corrupt; and sociopaths and the phenomenon of the evil couple.
There is also a subcategory of sociopaths, in my opinion, termed pseudologues — pathological and fantastical liars who seem to be unaware that there is a real reality out there, confusing reality with the verbal claim of reality. Geniuses at gathering sympathy they often claim a deadly illness miraculously recovered from or lived with. Traveling to the Holy Lands they claim divinity (Jerusalem Syndrome). Seemingly not very common, they do appear in the news from time to time. I would hospitalize all those suffering from pseudologia fantastica, they are much more alien than they appear.
Finally, two additional points of interest, first, in our economy corporations are essentially given sociopathic freedoms. Not surprisingly actual sociopaths very often then climb to the top. Second, I believe this country could use a political movement that excludes the pathologies of the right (a sociopathic lack of generosity and empathy led by actual psychopaths) and the left (a self-congratulatory rigid narcissism capable of creating a welfare system that rewards the breakup of the family).
Again welcome. I hope you find this of interest. I try not to hold my opinions dogmatically and see this as a journey towards the truth — thus the above original header photo. Hopefully some of you will wish to add your own comments.
Let me add what I claim to be my alternate credentials for claiming insight into sociopathy (as opposed to the traditional credentials of higher degrees, specific jobs, etc.). There are really three. First, I believe I have a very intimate knowledge of sociopaths and their thinking patterns. I have always gotten along with sociopaths very easily. Back in elementary school slightly odd classmates (who I now recognize as being sociopathic) I hardly knew would make my acquaintance, telling me things and asking me questions, as though I might have some insight into their experiences. To this day sociopaths continue to do this.
Second, my father’s career was in mental health (this career took him to a state commissionership of mental health). I would say that I grew up with the idea of an almost infinite complexity of the psychological universe.
Third, among other things, I am a professionally trained actor — I studied around 5 years with Bill Hickey and around 3 years with Sandy Dennis. We were taught to respond spontaneously to our instant reading of the emotional vibes of an acting situation (the theatrical buzzword was “organically” as I recall). Much to my surprise this gave me one foot in the world of sociopaths. Sociopaths simply use words for strategic reasons, as a life tool — meanings are another thing entirely. The truth is read behind the words themselves.
In terms of my educational background I have a B.A. in Anthropology from Columbia. While I don’t think this gave me insight into sociopaths specifically it did give me a non-judgmental ‘people are what they are and do what they do’ approach. Sociopaths fall into the ‘just are’ category of life.
I’m not sure the above will carry weight with anyone else, but I do believe these factors have helped give me insight into sociopathy.
Finally, I am obviously an adherent of the idea that one learns best what one learns on one’s own. I offer these posts in the hope that they will help make sense of the reader’s experience and world. My target audience are those curious or already knowledgeable about sociopaths, those trying to come to grips with interactions with sociopaths, or those who may be totally at a loss to understand what has happened to them but have stumbled onto the site. To the casual visitor who may not believe in the possibility of sociopaths in their personal sphere I hope, at the very least, you’ll keep in mind what I have to say just in case the knowledge turns out to be useful someday.
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I think DS is trying to point out that you might have a lot of psychopathic traits yourself. Most people are not that calm when seeing someone being mugged (you drove your car at the mugger) as you describe in one of your posts. And most people don’t attract Ps to them in the way you do.
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Hmmm. Well, if 4-6% of the population (about 1 in 20) is psychopathic then everyone interacts with psychopaths, almost daily. They are just not aware of it (though the signs are there).
That said, there is some kind of deep bond between myself and psychopaths that I don’t understand. There are subconcious reasons for things. For example at the UBS, not only was there a abnormally high percentage of psychopathic officers and managing directors but there was also a high percentage of employees with [a] psychopathic parent[s]. One could argue that was why they were attracted to and were comfortable working there. I am also sure that their conscious minds were aware of nothing out of sorts with UBS.
Am I a magnet for psychopaths? You found me didn’t you? That’s 1 for your side.
Regarding the mugging/slashing I witnessed and intimidating the mugger into ceasing and desisting, that was actually a fringe benefit of hypervigilance. I actually had noticed from afar that the victim to be was in possible danger before she did. So when the crime began the was no confusion on my part about what was happening.
Let me point out that no one was charging anyone with a car, it wasn’t a weapon but a tool of intimidation and communication (to the victim also, to keep fighting which she was doing, that help was on the way). If I had exited the car my tool simply would have been pepper spray.
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I stopped by the blog today, noticed that “About” was one of the top posts, and decided to check in again. I’m glad I did, because I need to clear something up.
PW, I most certainly was not trying to suggest that you must have a lot of sociopathic traits that allow you to get along with sociopaths.
I’m the sole neurotypical who emerged from a cluster of Cluster Bs. At the time I wrote this, I’d been reflecting on my history of having been surrounded and targeted by these people starting in childhood and was simply looking for a few tips. Who in this situation wouldn’t want some way of escaping this?
I’d stumbled onto a couple of short-term tactics for dealing with being a target: detachment, and what I now know is referred to as Grey Rock. I shared these with Heartbroken in this post:
https://pathwhisperer.info/2010/03/04/quadruple-search-today-how-to-cross-examine-a-sociopath/
Grey Rock is pretty much like Arnold Schwarzenegger covered with mud in Predator. I’ve since been involved in doing a deeper dive to excavate and remove the emotional traumas and cognitive blind spots that sociopaths sniff out and exploit. It’s working. (And it’s not traditional therapy, either. Therapy’s about 99.9999% useless against this type of abuse.)
So PW, I just want to make sure that the above implication does not stand.
Best,
DS
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Please help, i need help advice for court, the female sociopath has stalked, harassed us for over a year, and now she is crying to judge that she is afraid i’ll hurt her, she is scared, yet we are the victims that brought charges. B_____
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True to my experience as a victim of more than one.
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Thank you!
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I was very glad to see this site, and share your concerns about the non-sociopathic population’s unawareness of exactly what sociopathy really is and how often one is likely to encounter it.
Have you ever considered which fields tend to have unusually *low* percentages of sociopaths? You name stock traders and other “usual suspects” fields as having an unusually high percentage (and I have no reason to disagree with your judgments there). But conversely there must be some fields sociopaths would tend to avoid. I have a few ideas about which ones, but would be more interested to see your thoughts…
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I’m trying to think of some, but sociopaths are attracted both to fields that allow wolves to be wolves and fields where they can be wolves hiding out among the sheep (charities, EMT/ambulance drivers, the clergy, etc.).
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I’ve known 3 sociopaths in my life. 2 were violent and I luckily escaped with my life. The third was pure evil with the face of an angel. I write quite a bit on my blog about my unfortunate experience,(s) but mostly I keep much to myself and surround myself with anything but those memories. One post in particular, The Predator, I protected. I would allow select readers to gain access if they request the password. But occasionally I do reopen it. I suppose like you, in self defense. As painful and disturbing as it is, it is critical to bring it out into the light.
This is so encouraging that you are exposing this malignant behavior, that America and the world consistently applaud. I find it abhorrent that these monsters lurk at the top of every corporation in America and every political post, not to mention the successful business traveler, luring women into relationships whilst courting a wife at home and several others for his sick sense of gratification, ego stoking and his next fill of narcissistic supply. Without conscience is not merely a trite definition. It is a disturbing and destructive force that damages, destroys and kills.
Thank you for exposing the sociopath as I am trying to do. Sometimes I feel like I’m crazy writing about it. It’s a tough audience, the world.
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Could you share your blog url? Thanks.
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So many blogs I’ve seen on the subject paint sociopaths as the most vial, inhuman monsters one could imagine. In reality, I believe this only represents a very small percentage of an otherwise quasi-normal population. Many sociopaths have learned to blend, and even excel in society.
I sincerely hope your blog will paint both sides of the portrait.
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This is fascinating and of great interest to me personally. I can’t post the reasons because the issues I refer to are the subject of major police and FSA investigations both of which are on going. Is there a private contact e-mail address on your site?
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pathwhisperer@yahoo.com
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I’ve been dying to ask you this since I first read through your blog: how do you “get along with” a sociopath?
I experienced my first sociopath in kindergarten. She was quite similar to the pseudologues you’ve discussed in some of your posts – lying for the sake of lying, as if the only reality that existed was the one she spun with her yarns. These lies were self-aggrandizing, however, rather than being designed to induce pity: she’d created some masterpiece out of clay, for example, something that upon inspection proved to be a mass-produced object no child that age could even approximate, or she’d been involved in some extraordinary adventure, or some older boy was madly in love with her. These were not just the blabberings of an overly-imaginative child. Envious, she wanted to be envied.
She also indulged in more insidious amusements, such as giving me away during classroom games and attempting to swindle me out of my lunch money (unsuccessfully) or, in later years, out of favorite possessions (again unsuccessfully). To my irritation, no teacher or other student ever acknowledged or even seemed to notice anything “off” about her. But surprisingly, she wasn’t quite the malicious, “mean girl” type – she was grandiose and dishonest and had the usual gutless followers, and she annoyed me greatly at times, but I never observed her to pick fights or instigate terror campaigns against anyone during the years I knew her, and believe me, as aware as I was of the type of person she was and as wary of her operations as I was, I would have known.
I experienced my next sociopath in third grade. This, as they say, was a whole ‘nother ball game.
She was the foster child of a couple who had moved up from another town and were renting a house down the street from me, and I became acquainted with her in class. Because of her proximity, we became friends. Shortly into my acquaintance with her, she began acting out what I suspected at the time was sexual abuse from her birth home, hence the foster situation. (I never asked, feeling that she would talk about it at some point if she wanted to. She never did.) Her play was permeated with lewd acts, sexual references, foul language, and cruelty, all of which she soon directed at me.
Had I simply been able to get away from her, and had I had some support in doing so, I would have been able to avoid the psychic withering I experienced that school year—until, by some miracle, she moved away in the spring—from her direct torments and those she engineered through others: the physical abuse, threatened and actual character assassination, alienation from peers, credit-stealing and coercive dominance. But I was confronted with her in class and out, with no means of escape. The teacher all but ignored the situation; her foster parents ignored her vile outbursts and bullying. (“We just dote on her,” they said.) Even my own parents dismissed it. I sensed something desperately, twistedly wrong with her, but as before, no one seemed to notice. That’s the real horror of sociopathy – the indifference that seems to surround it.
Some readers may feel that her behavior was simply the result of exposure to an unfit home. To a degree that may have been the case, but I believe that her malice and perception management skills were too sophisticated, devious and instinctive to be merely reactive. Picture a female version of Macauley Culkin’s character in “The Good Son,” only nobody ended up dead…that I know of.
Since my introduction to the varieties of sociopathic experience as a child in school and later as an adult in the workforce, I’ve found that the only way to get along with sociopaths is to get away from sociopaths and, when necessary, bounce them off psychically, as I discussed in my response to Heartbroken’s comment on another part of your blog. In both the above situations and in encounters with sociopaths since then, I found that there was no dealing with them in any capacity other than being their means of demented self-gratification. If I had encountered the Dress Gray rapist you mentioned in your own comment on the DSM-IV post, for example, I’ll bet you a dozen doughnuts that I not only would have been revolted on the spot by him as that initial few were but also might have become some sort of target. But you seem to be able to coexist with this type with some intimacy and without becoming a target, a feat that warrants examination.
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Actually I got into a lot of trouble regarding that sociopath I referred to as a Dress Gray rapist. I printed out 8 to 10 pages from Cleckley’s “Mask of Sanity” and Hare’s “Without Conscience” to warn friends and co-workers. Perhaps I should have sought out a psychological assessment office in HR (if such existed). He is one of only two or three sociopaths that I have met that I believe truly belongs permanently in a mental institution as a danger to society.
I’ve certainly been a target of sociopathic campaigns. While I don’t talk that much of my personal experience, wanting to keep the blog of more general interest, a large part of why I write this blog is pure self defense.
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Amazing.
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