Psychopathic doctor, Martin MacNeill, on trial for wife’s murder

The young couple

The young couple

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Married happiness

Engagement celebration of Martin and Gypsy

Engagement celebration of Martin and his mistress, Gypsy

While caring for her mother after the surgery, Somers said she heard a bombshell just days before her mother died. “A few days before her death, I was helping her wash her hair and she turned to me and said, ‘Alex if anything happens to me make sure it was not your father,'” said Somers.  http://abcnews.go.com/US/daughter-waited-long-father-charged-wifes-murder/story?id=17084717

Michele MacNeill, the murdered woman, should have taken her fears seriously.  People always tell themselves not to be paranoid, unfortunately.  There was even a case of a husband who doubted his wife so strongly that he slept with a gun, she waited until he was asleep and shot him in the stomach, killing him.  She claimed he had rolled over onto the handgun (didn’t get away with it though).

From an earlier post,

If their girlfriends, who they ended up murdering, and victims of other psychopaths had known enough about sociopathy to suspect it, perhaps they wouldn’t have gone back one last time, or gone back alone to retrieve their belongings, or tried to do the right thing and explain in person why they were leaving, or tried to stay just friends, or agreed to meet in private, etc.  In my opinion, it’s incredibly irresponsible of law enforcement and the media not to inform the public about sociopathic criminals.  https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2011/09/20/post-redux-are-saps-socially-adept-psychopaths-real/

Dan Abrams says he’s almost never seen a case with this much evidence without charges being filed for years as happened in this case.  I would suggest investigating the local police department and investigators plus the DA’s office for possible protecting sociopaths.

http://a.abcnews.com/GMA/video/utah-doctor-accused-plotting-wifes-killing-mistress-20541118

http://abcnews.go.com/US/daughter-waited-long-father-charged-wifes-murder/story?id=17084717

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/wifes-death-dark-secrets-utah-doctor-revealed/story?id=12982985

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/slideshow/utah-doctor-kill-wife-mother-12894210

http://watchabc.go.com/2020/SH559026/VD55219100/2020-713-life-of-lies

Jodi Arias — human in outward form only

“”I think I’m more focused on your posture and your tone and your anger so it’s hard to process the questions,” Arias told Martinez.” http://news.yahoo.com/arias-prosecutor-scrutinized-intense-approach-185043813.html

Of course, psychopaths turn to words last in reading any communication.  For them words are just tools to be used in lying and manipulating, they don’t expect them to be truly meaningful.

The times I’ve watched her court, she appears very calm.  I’m sure that is not true.  I believe she’s running septuple/octuple time in her own head.  We can sometimes run double or triple time, but psychopaths have different brains and can far outpace us.  She knows full well that she is on trial for her life and she needs to win over at least one jury member.  Thus her little schoolgirl appearance and manner — it’s truly masterful.

Reminds me of a couple of my ex’s:   ‘Protect me, big man.  I’m so weak and fragile, I need your protection.’  Somehow I’d miss the fine print, ‘Of course I get to suck your blood and throw away your dried husk at any time of my choosing, because I’m Baby, and I get whatever I want, because I’m so weak and fragile.’  The term is “protect-me-monster”.  But I digress . . .

The engine driving increased public awareness of sociopathy: personal experience

The following websites are examples of individuals being driven to share their knowledge, come to grips with their experiences or warn the unwary.

Dealing With Diabolical Danielle Weblog
http://able2love.wordpress.com/
A “Beware of Poison Ivy” site.

Holy Water Salt
a blog about irradiating evil through “light”

http://holywatersalt.blogspot.com/

Both a personal experience and general knowledge site.

Charmed, I’m Sure
http://documentarycharmed.wordpress.com/
Seems to be notes of personal experience intended to be used in a documentary.

Questions About the Book
http://www.whenyoucryicry.com/blog/
The emotional devastation of falling for an emotionless sociopathic mimic.

Lovefraud Blog
http://www.lovefraud.com/
A big get together — shared stories, outrages, speculations.  The testimonies here may seem unbelievable to the inexperienced or uninitiated but they’re very real.  A few quotes below (emphasis added):

I too raised a psychopath, who has murdered once and tried to murder me. I also raised two young men who are fine men.  . . .

. . .

This past year when my P son and his cronies were trying to kill me (at least, but probably other members of the family would have been targeted after I was gone and when I fled and they couldn’t find me, they tried to kill my son C) in any case, I WAS FREAKING OUT, TOTALLY INSANE, UNABLE TO THINK OR FUNCTION. . . .

. . .

I understand the pain of realizing (finally) that your child, the child you planned for, gave birth to, nursed and loved is a monster beyond redemption. I understand the emotional and yes, PHYSICAL PAIN, of turning your back on that child (even though they are now an adult) and emotionally burying that child in your heart, as if they were dead, to at least preserve the memories you had of when the child was an infant, a toddler, and a young child that was the shining light of your life. I sort of feel like my child died and his organs were donated, but the MAN who has his organs is a monster, and not my son, any more than it would be if his kidneys or his eyes had been donated instead of his whole body.

The memories of the “morphing” years when he quit being the shining child and became the monstrous adolescent, then murdering man, those were the most difficult years of my life and I held on to toxic hope for 20 years after I should have “let go”—but I guess I thought the letting go was so painful I couldn’t handle it, but I know that the NOT LETTING GO was MORE PAINFUL and became so painful it was LET GO OR DIE. I chose, finally, to let go and live. It was so hard, harder than anything I have ever done.

Unlike Todd, I have my own monster out of my house, but I keep the guns CLOSE because I never know as long as he is alive when he might send another of his friends to try to kill me, for revenge, if no other reason. Both of my other sons and I are armed, or within reach of a gun at all times, day and night

http://www.lovefraud.com/2008/10/10/sociopathic-children-and-psychopathic-traits-during-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-13740

She uses the kids as pawns. She molested her son, he told his therapist (at 4 years old). Drew pictures of her vagina, doesn’t like hair in his mouth, wet the bed, the whole nine yards. She got out of it. We’ve been in custody hearings for a year and a half. The judge feels SORRY FOR HER!!!

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/09/22/letters-to-lovefraud-how-can-we-deal-with-the-sociopathic-ex-wife/#comments

pathwhisperer says:

I’m with Holywater (10/10 9:53 am) when she says:

“I think once you’ve been around a p you know the difference- they’re not insane, and once the mask slips, or you catch a glimpse, it’s nothing you’ve ever seen before unless of course you’ve known other p’s.

I recently was asked to prove my p was/is unfit for a position, nothing I said/experienced matter…lucky for me I track him- so I proved through concrete evidence “he says one thing, does another”

Recognising a p is not rocket science.”

It’s that “oh, moment” you look for . . . . To decide if someone may be a s/p I at first follow a rough checklist but then I wait for a gestalt type emotional/mental “click” or “oh, moment.” It is only at that point, if the answer is yes, that I can say ‘yes, that person is a s/p.’ And I agree it is not rocket science, anyone with normal emotional intelligence can do it.

I also agree that to communicate with others you have to concentrate on the s/p’s behavior. The “oh, moment” of recognition is not transferable to others. They have to go through their own emotional/mental processes to get there.

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/10/09/the-sociopath-next-door-probably-not/#comments

The New Yorker writes about researchers’ struggle to study psychopaths

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/10/081110fa_fact_seabrook

. . . Although the story is comprehensive, one of the points made me think that we at Lovefraud have a better understanding of psychopaths than researchers.

“Unlike most academic psychopathy researchers, Kiehl has spent many hours in the company of his subjects. When he meets colleagues at conferences, he told me, “they always ask, ‘What are they like?’ These are guys who have spent twenty years studying psychopaths and never met one.” . . .

This is scarymany researchers in psychopathy never met one? We should consider ourselves better informed, because we’ve all had extremely close encounters with these predators. And we know exactly how the ones who are not in jail behave.

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/11/10/the-new-yorker-writes-about-researchers-struggle-to-study-psychopaths/