Post Redux: Are SAPs (Socially Adept Psychopaths) real?

I’m bringing this post back — it’s been a while, also there happen to be multiple searches today for Thomas Capano.

Obviously I think they are.  It’s why I write this blog. From my Mission Statement:  [My aim is] to share information about sociopathy and sociopathic behavior in everyday life. “It’s as though there’s a dangerous fish in all the waters of the world, that is never mentioned”  https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/about/.

To the best of my knowledge, the term SAPs originated with Roger Canup.

In the last section I pointed out that the problem of plausible lies is the most serious problem facing humanity today. I will now discuss the people who have been telling plausible lies: the Socially Adept Psychopaths or S.A.Ps (pronounced SAPS) of the world. An example of S.A.P. thought processes is in order.

Most people have heard of Ted Bundy; the serial killer who was executed in Florida several years ago. Not many people are aware of the fact that Bundy was studying to become a prosecutor, and that eventually he hoped to become a judge. Those that do know that fact see it as some strangely ironic twist – an inexplicable quirk in Bundy’s bizarre makeup. It never seems to occur to most people that the perfect place for a psychopathic serial killer to hide in society is as a prosecutor or a judge; but I assure you that it occurs to the Psychopaths of the world. I would estimate that about 10% of the prosecutors and judges in the United States are in fact, S.A.Ps. The ONLY difference between them and Ted Bundy is that they were able to control outward signs of their Psychopathy until they achieved their goal of being in a position of authority.

http://users.hal-pc.org/~rcanup/sap.html.

For most of their lives Thomas Capano and Ira Einhorn passed as SAPs and led seemingly responsible lives — it was only the insult to the ego of a lover leaving and the subsequent murder of same that exposed them.

Thomas Capano
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Capano

Ira Einhorn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Einhorn

If their girlfriends, who they ended up murdering, and victims of other psychopaths had known enough about sociopathy to suspect it, perhaps they wouldn’t have gone back one last time, or gone back alone to retrieve their belongings, or tried to do the right thing and explain why they were leaving in person, or tried to stay just friends, or agreed to meet in private, etc.  In my opinion, it’s incredibly irresponsible of law enforcement and the media not to inform the public about sociopathic criminals.

Brain Scans Show Abnormalities In Psychopaths

Adrian Raine’s “successful” psychopaths are essentially the same as SAPs.

In the study of the hippocampus, the research team [led by Adrian Raine of USC] expanded the scope of previous studies by comparing the brains of two groups for the first time: “successful” psychopaths – those who had committed crimes but had never been caught – and “unsuccessful” psychopaths – those who had been caught.
. . .
The difference between successful psychopaths (those who avoid getting arrested) and unsuccessful psychopaths is that the more successful ones have a greater ability to learn fear of getting caught and to therefore guide their own behavior to minimize the chances of getting caught.
. . .
“There’s faulty wiring going on in psychopaths. They’re wired differently than other people,” Raine said. “In a way, it’s literally true in this case.”

He found that the psychopaths’ corpus callosums were an average of 23 percent larger and 7 percent longer than the control groups’.
. . .

With an increased corpus callosum came less remorse, fewer emotions and less social connectedness – the classic hallmarks of a psychopath, he said.

“These people don’t react. They don’t care,” Raine said. “Why that occurs, we don’t fully know, but we are beginning to get important clues from neuro-imaging research.”

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001998.html

The Tucson tragedy — reopen the mental hospitals, require candidates to submit brain scans

Gerald Loughner obviously belonged in a mental hospital as a dangerous psychotic.  This post however will focus on the hate mongers and the destabilizing effort to destroy the American economy by our own elite (which is destabilizing psychologically, emotionally and economically).  It is my strong belief that the public should insist that those running for office submit brain scans to prove they are not sociopathic.  “Journalists” of course don’t have to.

Paradoxically, one of the reasons for the incivility of the Tea Party/Fox News (otherwise known as the Republican propaganda channel that went to court to establish its right to lie) is too much civility on our part.  Sociopaths and the corrupt have taken advantage of our good nature.

Where we should have/should still draw[n] the line against sociopathy/sociopathic modality:

  • No, pathologically lying sociopath Ronald Reagan (i.e., a sufferer of pseudologia fantastica syndrome) is not fit for the presidency.  I am aware that he has his sincere admirers.  However there is no shame in being conned, but there is in not waking up.  His con was to present a folksy front for the destruction of the American way of life — the average person being middle class.  A garbage picker class was created specifically as economic terrorism, to terrorize Americans into working more hours for less pay.
  • No, we will not accept NAFTA which cratered American manufacturing and destroyed Mexican farmers (by the millions).  There is no need to repeal NAFTA, the president could simply declare it null and void.  Its passage was absolutely unconstitutional, it never received the two thirds vote treaties require.  Through sociopathic lawyerese it was simply termed an agreement, requiring only a majority vote.
  • No, Clinton, China will not be given most favored nation status. Through this and other means globalism was foisted on the world, before the U.S. and world realized what was happening, let alone voting on it.  China was to be the factory of the world and Americans the consumers of the world (hello . . . how can we be consumers without jobs?  ‘Government is the problem, markets are natural geniuses’ — Greenspan (or something like that).)
  • No, there is no such thing as a service economy, where I work at McDonald’s and you work at Walmarts, there is no such thing as a FIRE economy (finance, insurance, real estate), and today, in a growing number of places, there is no such thing as garage sale or thrift shop economyAn economy requires that value be created.
  • No, Wall Street, we will tell you what “financial products” (hah) you can sell.  Do they further the interest of the greater economy?  And, by the way, Glass-Steagall will stay.
  • No, Greenspan and Bernanke, you will not allow runaway economic bubbles. To those to say, ‘Well gee, how do we know when we’re in a bubble” (and many of them have Ph.D.s), I say ‘Shut up and grow up’.
  • No, Wall Street, there is no such thing as riskless capitalisim –– selling worthless mortgages, distributing the risk through bundling (mortgage backed securities).  And then conning the world to buy them (and derivatives).  Capitalism 101:  those going for the profit, take the risk. Tell that to bankers.  Mortgage originators faced almost no risk.
  • No, Bush, Obama, Geithner, Bernanke, Paulson, too big to fail means just that.  Going forward banks (and other companies) will no longer be so large that their failure would damage the entire economy. Instead, the exact opposite has happened, Wall Streets firms have become even bigger and more concentrated.  But don’t worry, Obama will retire from  the presidency wealthy just like Clinton (whose foundation is worth hundreds of millions).  Become president of the United States and become rich.  (To support these economic points please see Financial crisis of 2008 avoidable, says US inquiry.)
  • No, you will not carry firearms to political rallies and town hall meetings. This is despite the fact that the entire Bill of Rights consists of restraints on government power and the recognition of individual (not collective) rights.  There are still common sense, comparable to no shouting fire falsely in crowded theaters, restrictions.  Threatening deadly force (in the absence of imminent danger) is a crime.
  • No, Tea Party candidates and Fox hate-spewing-mouths, you will not incite violence. I don’t know where the line is, between free speech and the first amendment but it seems to me that Sharron Angle’s “second amendment remedies” is very close to inciting violence and the equivalent of needlessly shouting fire in a crowded theater (which is legally actionable).  But as individuals, we are certainly free to respond verbally how we wish, regardless of any possible criminality.
  • Michele Bachmann, you are insane.  Glenn Beck, with his bizarre diagrams and his fake crying jags, seems insane also, but it’s not on the public dime.

These are very dangerous times.  Whenever there is a crime and tragedy, such as the the one Loughner carried out, it is important to ask exactly where the pathology lays — in the action, or in both the action and the motivation (i.e., was it the pathological expression of a common or understandable stress or the expression of an internal psychotic stress). In Loughner’s case it seems both are true, both his action and motivation were pathological (psychotic) but at the same time based on shared societal stressors.

Reopening the mental hospitals would do multiple things.  Paranoid schizophrenics would be taken care of , and the public protected.  “Over the edge” sociopaths would also be confined.  Sociopaths respond only to outside constraints.  I can’t prove this, but it is my firm belief that the very existence of mental hospitals was and could again be a great restraining factor regarding sociopaths.

The hospitals were closed through the confluence of the extreme end of Republicanism, the sociopathic greed and selfishness of the ‘whatever is for me is the good, and screw everybody else’ philosophy, and the narcissistic end of the Democratic party, ‘Lincoln freed the slaves, we’ll free the mental patients.’ The conservatives wanted to save money and the liberals pushed the model of community based treatment (that didn’t exist when mental patients started being dropped off at street corners).  After the recent tragedy, Tucson’s Sheriff Clarence Dupnik stated that the best mental health facility in the area is his county jail.  I think it’s clear which side won, the side anchored in sociopathic greed and selfishness, liberal narcissists once again played the part of useful fools.  But still too many liberals can’t see this, too many can’t see the mentally ill as being exploited prey on the streets, being too busy admiring their goodness in the mirror.

But back to politicians, Ronald Reagan seems to have opened the door to the weirdosIs Michele Bachmann a pseudologue?  Does she know that reality actually really is real?  She doesn’t seem to. See Founding fathers ‘worked tirelessly’ to end slavery, or PolitiFact’s Truth-o-meter, All statements involving Michele Bachmann, though I see she’s come up to “Half True” finally.

Chris Mathews has asked her, and other Tea Party leaders (such as Sal Russo) if they’re acting under hypnosis for their behavior during interviews.  They seem to just nod and smile and then, to any question, simply repeat the point they have to say.  It’s almost as though, on their home planet, Zatar, they had a conference on how to communicate with Earthlings and came up with this plan.  Oh, oh — to newbies, bizarre sociopathic groupthink is one of my suggested flags of possible sociopathy.  Sociopaths are permanent children, strangers in a strange land — they are always trying to figure out the behavior of the adult normal world.  In an echo chamber of a sociopaths only coffee klatch (I was going to say clown car but . . .) they can come up with some really bizarre ideas and interpretations.   For one of the interviews, see YouTube – Chris Matthews Rips Tea Party Express Co-Founder Sal Russo!.

A problem with attacking a movement’s leaders is that their followers usually feel they are attacked also.  This needs to be prevented.  Tea Party citizens are certainly fearful and anxious, as are probably most Americans.  The reasons for this are logical and understandable.  The America we have known is being destroyed in front of our eyes, as we are being reduced economically to third world conditions. Above I have expressed my own interpretation of recent history.

In closing let me urge again that all those running for public office be asked to submit brain scans proving they are not sociopathic, starting with those with runaway-bride eyes.  See Adrian Raine’s work: Abnormal Brain Region Characterizes Those With Psychopathy, Habitual Liar Brains Look Different On Scans.

It turns out I’m echoing Futurepundit on the brainscans (from link immediately above):

“Modest proposal:  Require politicians running for office to get brain scans and publish their gray matter to white matter ratio. If the public really wants more honest politicians (and I’m not entirely convinced that is the case) then the public could vote for candidates that have higher gray to white matter. Also, politicians should have to include any indications that they have brains shaped for psychopathy.”

Search: pseudologia fantastica treatment

There isn’t any.  Pseudologues (i.e., sociopaths who are also pathological liars) are the way they are born to be.  Neither freewill or individual psychology plays any role.  Their brains are even different (www.futurepundit.com/archives/001998.html, www.futurepundit.com/archives/003035.html.

However, there are other types of psychological liars so each individual should obviously be evaluated.  A problem with this, though, is that those individuals we would assume to be experts, therapists, probably have less experience with pseudologues and sociopaths than we do in daily life.  Pseudologues and sociopaths, being perfect in every way, simply do not often present themselves for treatment.  Further, if they do, their purpose is not to change but to learn how to pass for normal more easily — in effect they seek to use talk therapy to become more adept as sociopathic predators.

I agree with those that believe pseudologues and sociopaths should never, ever be accepted into talk therapy.  I would go even further to state that any therapists who do in fact do this should lose their licenses — since it is only by their being out of touch with their own soul that they could fail to recognize the soulless, could fail to recognize that they couldn’t reach the sociopathic client.  Any therapist out of touch with their own soul can not be of any use to anybody, is by definition not even a therapist in the first place.

The worst situation I have ever known of in this regard involved a therapy group that allowed sociopathic members along with the depressives, neurotics, incest victims, etc.  I’m sure the therapist (Nancy Becker, LCSW, http://nancybeckertherapy.com/, https://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/name/Nancy_Becker_LCSW_New+York_New+York_145736) would never have thrown piranhas into a goldfish bowl, but this she found acceptable.  I’m not a fan of group therapy in the first place (I believe it is a grotesque lowering of boundaries before strangers one can not know) but accepting sociopaths into group therapy should be grounds for automatic malpractice suits against a therapist.

A universal among sociopaths (including pseudologues) is delight at manipulating the non-sociopathic into behavior betraying their souls.

In the instance above I consider the therapist to be a rigid or malignant narcissist herself (one of Scott Peck’s mentally ill evil described in his book, People of the Lie).  Many people object to the concepts of evil and mental illness being joined, I can only assume they have never dealt with any malignant narcissists.   Group therapy with such a flawed therapist would become a celebration of her defect.  Sociopaths would effortlessly join that effort.  In addition narcissists are very attracted to sociopaths, narcissists themselves have to spend eternity fighting their souls, their consciences, their dreams and do in fact wake up to their true humanity occasionally.  Sociopaths have none of these problems.

A small grotesquery in an extremely grotesque story is that this therapist was called Mother by her clients.  It is hard to imagine a greater perversion of reality or semantics.

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Are SAPs (Socially Adept Psychopaths) Real?

Obviously I think they are.  It’s why I write this blog. From my Mission Statement:  [My aim is] to share information about sociopathy and sociopathic behavior in everyday life. “It’s as though there’s a dangerous fish in all the waters of the world, that is never mentioned”  https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/about/.

To the best of my knowledge, the term SAPs originated with Roger Canup.

In the last section I pointed out that the problem of plausible lies is the most serious problem facing humanity today. I will now discuss the people who have been telling plausible lies: the Socially Adept Psychopaths or S.A.Ps (pronounced SAPS) of the world. An example of S.A.P. thought processes is in order.

Most people have heard of Ted Bundy; the serial killer who was executed in Florida several years ago. Not many people are aware of the fact that Bundy was studying to become a prosecutor, and that eventually he hoped to become a judge. Those that do know that fact see it as some strangely ironic twist – an inexplicable quirk in Bundy’s bizarre makeup. It never seems to occur to most people that the perfect place for a psychopathic serial killer to hide in society is as a prosecutor or a judge; but I assure you that it occurs to the Psychopaths of the world. I would estimate that about 10% of the prosecutors and judges in the United States are in fact, S.A.Ps. The ONLY difference between them and Ted Bundy is that they were able to control outward signs of their Psychopathy until they achieved their goal of being in a position of authority.

http://users.hal-pc.org/~rcanup/sap.html.

For most of their lives Thomas Capano and Ira Einhorn passed as SAPs, in my opinion — it was only the insult to the ego of a lover leaving and the subsequent murder of same that exposed them.

Thomas Capano
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Capano

Ira Einhorn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Einhorn

If the murdered women and others in their position had known enough about sociopathy to suspect it in these cases perhaps they wouldn’t have gone back one last time, gone back to retrieve their belongings alone, tried to do the right thing and explain why they were leaving in person, tried to stay just friends, agree to meet in private, etc.  In my opinion, it’s incredibly irresponsible of law enforcement and the media not to inform the public about sociopathic criminals.

Brain Scans Show Abnormalities In Psychopaths

Adrian Raine’s “successful” psychopaths are essentially the same as SAPs.

In the study of the hippocampus, the research team [led by Adrian Raine of USC] expanded the scope of previous studies by comparing the brains of two groups for the first time: “successful” psychopaths – those who had committed crimes but had never been caught – and “unsuccessful” psychopaths – those who had been caught.
. . .
The difference between successful psychopaths (those who avoid getting arrested) and unsuccessful psychopaths is that the more successful ones have a greater ability to learn fear of getting caught and to therefore guide their own behavior to minimize the chances of getting caught.
. . .
“There’s faulty wiring going on in psychopaths. They’re wired differently than other people,” Raine said. “In a way, it’s literally true in this case.”

He found that the psychopaths’ corpus callosums were an average of 23 percent larger and 7 percent longer than the control groups’.
. . .

With an increased corpus callosum came less remorse, fewer emotions and less social connectedness – the classic hallmarks of a psychopath, he said.

“These people don’t react. They don’t care,” Raine said. “Why that occurs, we don’t fully know, but we are beginning to get important clues from neuro-imaging research.”

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001998.html

More recent and widespread research can be found at the linked Swedish site, It Affects Us All.  Their research page is Forskning, http://user.tninet.se/csz433c/homepages/evah/html/forskning.htm.  The research links with English synopses are towards the bottom.