“A lot has been written about psychopaths, some insightful, some neutral and some hilarious. Of the hilarious ones, nothing is more arresting than what is said about our eyes. One blog called Psychopaths and Love says, “Many of us have seen firsthand or read descriptions of psychopaths having an intense gaze, a predatory or reptilian stare, or eyes that are lifeless, dead, emotionless, cold, icy, flat, black, or empty.” Why do our eyes look this way? The article continues, “Dr. Reid Meloy’s Reptilian State Theory hypothesizes that psychopaths are more like reptiles than mammals.” So now we’re not mammals. We’re reptiles? The author quotes Dr. Robert Hare as saying, “Many people find it difficult to deal with intense, emotionless, or ‘predatory’ stare of the psychopath. Normal people maintain close eye contact with others for a variety of reasons, but the fixated stare of the psychopath is more prelude to self-gratification and the exercise of power than simple interest or empathetic caring.”
“Now that we’ve gotten beyond the over-the-top rhetoric expelling us from the human race and even from the category of “mammal,” we can get some more explicit description of what bothers some people about our “stare.” (Some people aren’t even satisfied with relegating us to membership in another species, even another phylum. To them our stare reveals evil, itself. Lucky Otter says, “there’s nothing inside them except an vast and endless black void of nothingness….Behind the twinkle, the eyes are still reptilian and dead.”) It is “fixated,” “intense,” “emotionless” and “predatory.” The picture shown here indicates to me, “I know what’s really happening.” It reminds me of moments I have had the same godlike, omniscient awareness of being the only one in the room who was awake. A fixated and intense “stare” can simply be a sign that the psychopath is really interested in what s/he is looking at. As I discussed in my blog post about charm, psychopaths are often intensely interested. We recognize some people as deeply mysterious and we love to solve mysteries. Many people think psychopaths are serial killers. But, once disabused of this incorrect stereotype, the “predatory” characterization begs the question of what we are looking for in our “prey.” Most of us are not looking for a victim to be murdered. Many psychopaths are merely looking for someone to have a sexual relationship. In this respect, psychopaths are not very different from ordinary men. Every girl or woman who has dates can attest to the fact that most men want a conquest, that is, to have sex with the woman they are dating. Nobody seems to find this sinister when it is a goal of a “regular” or NT male. When a psychopath does it, it’s “predatory.” The fact that most relationships with psychopaths are short-lived, most “hook-ups” today are, in fact, short lived. The sooner a couple get horizontal, the more quickly they tend to tire of one another and move on. Again, this is as true of the “non” as it is with the “path.” I must confess bewilderment with the way a psychopath on the make is considered more “predatory” than the NT man on the make. Perhaps the answer is in the adjective in Hare’s statement I haven’t discussed, “emotionless.” Psychopaths are known to be less emotional (and more rational) then the rest of the population. Is the sexual come-on of the “emotionless” psychopath really more “self-gratifying” than the that of the more emotional Don Juans in our midst?
“So far, I have only talked about one possible interest a psychopath may have in hir “prey.” But we can have other interests. Someone may be interesting, have information to share, money or even connections to other people. These are all things anyone can desire and try to get from another.
“The article goes on, “In my own experience, the psychopath I knew had lambent eyes — brilliantly playful, softly bright, luminous. They twinkled with warmth when he smiled, or so I thought. It was actually the twinkle of amusement as he manipulated me. A few times I saw the light go out in his eyes, and in those moments they became flat and dead.” This brings us to another quality we are reputed to have. We are alleged to have a void within ourselves. Blogger Lucky Otter wrote, “sometimes they can be caught when their mask is momentarily down (usually when they’ve been called out–or caught), and it’s here when we see the emptiness and evil inside them.” Evil? Not merely reptilian? She goes on to say, “It’s not so much a demonic look (which has a sort of life to it) as a dead, lifeless look that is far worse. It’s a malignant look that makes you want to get away from them fast. Like there’s nothing inside them except an vast and endless black void of nothingness. It’s like standing at the precipice of a black hole, and what can be more terrifying than some nameless void that can suck you into itself–and can even swallow light?” WOW! I’m actually impressed! I have a black hole inside me? Good grief!
“A new explanation (new to me anyway) for the “psychopathic stare” has been articulated in the article, Subtle Signs of Psychopathy, “Psychopaths look people in the eyes, but only because they learned that it is the proper way to communicate. Eye contact does not come naturally to them. This is why their stare is too strongly fixated on the other person and it looks weird. Some people say that they try to hypnotize their victims. But I believe that sometimes they just try too hard.” Um, OK.
“People have always been concerned about each other’s eyes and considered them to be windows to the soul. Interestingly enough, most animals avoid eye-to-eye contact. When stared at by another animal, they interpret that star as a prelude to an attack. When I was a child, I liked to pretend I was a cat like my lovable pet. Once, I get under my cat’s favorite chair and stared at her. My cat didn’t understand that I was playing. She pounced at me as if I had been challenging her space. I never tried that again, understanding what she must have considered my behavior. In the wild, people threatened by a lion or tiger can sometimes bluff the animal by staring it in the eyes. If they are lucky, the beast will think this person must have power to be so unafraid and confrontational. Only the human species sees eye contact as something warm and friendly. I have been told that even some human cultures consider eye-contact as rude. In the Latino cultures, I have heard, looking away is a gesture of submission and respect. Anglos often think the person is being “sneaky” when he is only being polite.
“An American dollar bill has a very compelling occultist symbol. It is a pyramid truncated close to its apex. The apex of this pyramid forms a triangle with a single eye within it. This symbol is familiar to Masons. It is variously called the “eye of Horus” (Egyptian) and the “eye of Shiva” (Hindu). The Christian fundamentalists like to believe that the “founding fathers” were Christian fundies like themselves. But many of them were agnostics and free-thinkers. All the American presidents (until JFK) were Masons. The slogan, “in God we trust” was not put on the dollar until the 50’s. Some people say the eye is the eye of God. It certainly was the eye of many Pagan gods, Horus, Osiris, Shiva… It has also been called the eye of the phoenix. Meanwhile, others say the eye is “creepy.”
“I am not particularly concerned with the conspiracy theories that the eye is “satanic.” My interest is merely to explore the deep significance the eye holds for humanity. The eye is the “window to the soul.” It is the instrument through which we are “seen.” Many people are fearful and nervous about the extent to which our government has us under surveillance. The eye is indeed a window through which we can see and be seen as well.
“The abyss is something most people fear without knowing why. In the Kabbalah, which is claimed both by the Jews and the Egyptians, the Tree of Life is like a diagram or map of spiritual reality. It’s a strongly felt instrument of occultism. The Golden Dawn called it the Qabbalah and made it a center of their studies. On the Tree of Life, there are spheres or “Sephira” representing aspects of spiritual reality. But there is one place on the Tree where a Sephira is absent. In it’s place is a void, called Daath. Only the bravest and most adventurous occultists dared to explore Daath. It is considered both dangerous and a gateway to the highest forms of wisdom. Coincidentally(?), astronomers speak of the black hole in space where everything is sucked into nothingness.
“As can be seen, both the eye and the void are deeply felt by humanity, at least the Western part. The reason psychopaths are feared is, to a great extent, the lack of a conscience. Even Dr. Hare’s book about psychopathy is entitled Without Conscience. The fact that we are not controlled or held back by something most people claim to have within spooks those who are conscience-bound. I discuss this matter in an article on my web site, Free to Choose. We are not all “evil” and we are not forever doing bad things. But the fact that we can if we want to without being bothered by conscience scares the shit out of people. I think this fear is the root of my people’s “creepy” experience of looking into our eyes. Here’s looking at you.”
Regarding Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook, would you say his looks are odd? His eyes strange? Would you say, or understand why someone else might describe his eyes as flat or shallow? Would you say, or understand why someone else might say there was no soul behind his eyes? Would you say, or understand why someone else might say the phrase, ‘the lights are on, but nobody is home”? Does he seem arrogant to you? Almost emotionless? Personality-less?
Any ‘yes’, means you are on the way. That’s how recognizing psychopaths start.
“Dumb F–ks”: Julian Assange Reminds Us What Mark Zuckerberg Thinks Of Facebook Users
“Julian Assange fired off a tweet Friday afternoon reminding people of the time Mark Zuckerberg called his users “Dumb fucks” because they trusted him with their private information.
Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuck: Just ask.
Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend’s Name]: What? How’d you manage that one?
Zuck: People just submitted it.
Zuck: I don’t know why.
Zuck: They “trust me”
Zuck: Dumb fucks.
I have deleted my Facebook.
In fact, I never had one. Friends don’t put their friends into a giant intelligence database controlled by a megalomaniac who calls his users “dumb fucks” for trusting him. pic.twitter.com/4KaUwRSLMm
— Julian Assange ⌛ (@JulianAssange) March 23, 2018 “ https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-25/dumb-f-ks-julian-assange-reminds-us-what-mark-zuckerberg-thinks-facebook-users
Wake up, Eloi.
Is Mark Zuckerberg’s wardrobe that of a genius… or psychopath?
Please note, Facebook has just shut down Alex Jones Infowars’ sites and Venezuelan sites. It doesn’t matter what you think of these sites, next time it could be you. The war begins.
What?? What’s that voice in the back? “You’re wrong. Mark is simply a nice Jewish boy!” Ah. . . . No, you are the one who’s wrong. The reason you think that, is due to psychopathy being another genetic disorder carried in higher percentages in the Ashkenazi population. Plain and simple. It is not anti-Semitism to note this. In fact it should be freeing. When a young person suddenly realizes that a parent is a psychopath, they are suddenly freed from the dictates of the parent/child power relationship, and can proceed to explore life unhindered by the anchor of the psychopathic parent.
From a comments exchange:
Anonymous: My personal take is that we should refrain from exposing people’s faces to make a guess on their personality, at least point blank as done here. This is ‘Kitchen’ psychology at best, and may lead to innocent people being blamed for ‘obvious’ personality disorders. In fact I saw a German female ASMRtist being harassed on YT for having this ’empty look’ in her eyes. I don’t know why this is, but since a few years people here in Germany seem to be eager to pick on fellows that don’t appear to be normal. Maybe related to that Jungle Camp series airing now and then, where a bunch of people is isolated in a camp and watched mobbing/harassing each other everyday, allowing publicity to vote on the characters. Please takes this into consideration.
Pathwhisperer: I understand your point. It is a slippery slope. But here is why I fundamentally disagree with you.
I absolutely do not accept that my blog advances ‘kitchen’ psychology. If the expert psychologists assert that psychopathy is so rare that most people will never meet one, then those experts are either stupid or psychopaths themselves. The DSM documents (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) are evil in intent and written by evil people (psychopathic or otherwise). Among other crimes the DSMs have led to the pharmacological treatment of normal teenagers, affecting their normal brain development. Regarding the DSMs creating the category of anti-social personality disorder while pretending psychopathy doesn’t exist, I can only conclude the Personality Group (without looking up the formal name) is controlled by psychopaths and is acting in their interest. I was once going to do a post on the particular individuals in this group with the goal of ascertaining which were likely psychopaths, but have never gotten around to it.
My point in the previous paragraph is that if the so-called experts have failed us, and they have, then we are on our own. It’s not kitchen psychology, it’s survival psychology. We are dependent on our own wits.
Regarding Paul Horner’s and Skylar DeLeon’s appearances, I stand by what I say. But please note, I have never done a post on ‘psychopathic eyes’, even though noticing them is one of the most powerful tools in recognizing psychopaths (along with noticing unusual arrogance, complete lack of morality, etc.). I have never written that post for multiple reasons: 1) I’ve come to realize that this blog is intended as a negotiation with psychopaths, a ‘why don’t you guys just behave’ endeavor, it is in the interest of that endeavor (practical or impractical) that they feel they can blend in and disappear into the population; 2) a psychopathic friend of mine upon greeting me one day started crying, I thought ‘Oh, oh, a hit’s coming’ (sometime I think they all know each other), why would I want him to feel uncomfortable? (An attempted hit did take place. It involved psychopathic members of the NYPD, I was almost slammed into a barrier on the Jersey Turnpike — this was shortly after a private communication to Philip Eure before he assumed his duties as NYC Inspector General for the NYPD, offering my help in identifying psychopathic individuals in the NYPD. I state the above as a fact, the NYPD can sue me, in fact I wish they would, discovery would give me subpoena powers.)
Every single aspect of Paul Horner screamed psychopathy at me, his eyes, his flat affect voice, his laugh, his postures, etc. In terms of your statement of some Germans seemingly “eager to pick on fellows that don’t appear to be normal.” That is a real danger. We are all taught not to judge books by their cover, but what if sometimes you can? From my undergraduate years studying anthropology, I recall numerous discussions of the relatively high murder rates in hunter and gatherer societies. They routinely killed odd acting/looking people (to protect themselves from psychopaths?). I have no doubt that that fate would have befallen hunter gatherer Paul Horners and Skylar DeLeons.
The populations of the U.S. and western Europe are desperate as the middle class is being destroyed and their world is collapsing. Many bad possibilities may happen.
Was he wondering about this face?
Nellie Ohr, employee of Fusion GPS, wife of the DOJ’s Bruce Ohr.
This might be related, Researchers say a wide face predicts psychopathic traits in men.
The Fusion GPS Trump dossier seems to me to be close to a complete psychopathic fabrication. For psychopaths ‘enough is enough’ is never enough — they prefer ‘way too much’. According to the ‘Russian dossier’, Trump insisted on staying in the same hotel the Obama’s did in Moscow, insisted on the same room and thus the same bed, and then hired a prostitute to perform a ‘golden shower’ on him in said bed as disrespect for Obama? Come on. The fruit of a childish mind.
An obvious at a glance psychopath. Anyone with these looks is also a psychopath. If you ever hear an interview please note his affectless voice — an obvious by ear psychopath.
“Anyone with these looks is also a psychopath” — hmmm, here’s an example. This is Richard Holbrooke of course. Please note I’m not merely suggesting he be evaluated as a possible psychopath, I’m stating he is (not merely or even mostly on looks, I know quite a bit about him). Now one is free to say, “Whatever, your statement is really just an opionion and I don’t accept it.” And one is free to be wrong too.
Open message to FTI Consulting, I am offering my services, for $50,000, to create a dossier on Dov Charney’s psychopathic behaviors and consistencies, supporting the proposition that he is in fact a psychopath.
Psychopaths have no need of privacy, like little children playing with their privates in front of the guests. This trait, primitive, undeveloped sexuality with privacy unnecessary, is simply an aspect of the devastating arrested development of psychopaths, the primary psychopathic throughline.
Related posts: https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/october-and-november-items-with-that-sociopathic-flavor/ (Anand Jon Alexander), https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/not-frat-boy-behavior-sociopathic-behavior/, https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/?s=sexuality.
While caring for her mother after the surgery, Somers said she heard a bombshell just days before her mother died. “A few days before her death, I was helping her wash her hair and she turned to me and said, ‘Alex if anything happens to me make sure it was not your father,'” said Somers. http://abcnews.go.com/US/daughter-waited-long-father-charged-wifes-murder/story?id=17084717
Michele MacNeill, the murdered woman, should have taken her fears seriously. People always tell themselves not to be paranoid, unfortunately. There was even a case of a husband who doubted his wife so strongly that he slept with a gun, she waited until he was asleep and shot him in the stomach, killing him. She claimed he had rolled over onto the handgun (didn’t get away with it though).
From an earlier post,
If their girlfriends, who they ended up murdering, and victims of other psychopaths had known enough about sociopathy to suspect it, perhaps they wouldn’t have gone back one last time, or gone back alone to retrieve their belongings, or tried to do the right thing and explain in person why they were leaving, or tried to stay just friends, or agreed to meet in private, etc. In my opinion, it’s incredibly irresponsible of law enforcement and the media not to inform the public about sociopathic criminals. https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2011/09/20/post-redux-are-saps-socially-adept-psychopaths-real/
Dan Abrams says he’s almost never seen a case with this much evidence without charges being filed for years as happened in this case. I would suggest investigating the local police department and investigators plus the DA’s office for possible protecting sociopaths.