Phrase source (at the bottom): http://180rule.com/psychopaths-are-opportunists/
At Psychopathresistance a commenter warned us of not getting too cocky. No one’s cocky. Psychopathresistance, Pathwhisperer could disappear. It woudn’t make any difference. The internet has already destroyed the ghetto-ization of knowledge of psychopathy purposely brought about by psychopathic “psychopathy experts”. Psychopathic arrogances at the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-V) who pretend psychopathy doesn’t exist (that’s like pretending red hair doesn’t exist — you couldn’t make this stuff up) have already been outflanked. The “Psychopath Whisperer”, Kent Kiehl, who always serves psychopathic interests, who writes of psychopathic truths, but then writes repeatedly that they are so rare that few will ever meet a psychopath is tilting at windmills and is already irrelevant. However, AI in the hands of psychopaths, that would worry me.
For Years, Deaf Boys Tried to Tell of Priest’s Abuse
They were deaf, but they were not silent. For decades, a group of men who were sexually abused as children by the Rev. Lawrence C. Murphy at a school for the deaf in Wisconsin reported to every type of official they could think of that he was a danger, according to the victims and church documents
Staring Abuse Straight in the Face
After Years of Suffering, Former Students of St. John’s School for the Deaf Confront the Priest Who Assaulted Them As Boys, Demanding He Accept Blame
The Catholic Church (and all organizations where the “wolves can hide out among the sheep”) should use brain scanning technology to help recognize sociopaths. Of course this could also be extended to applicants for “belly to the bar”, “snout in the public trough” jobs such as politicians and union officials. It absolutely should be used in parole decisions regarding pedophiles, rapists and murderers (indeed, some could be sent straight from prison to mental hospitals — or if legal evidence is not sufficient sent straight to mental hospitals).
Abnormal Brain Region Characterizes Those With Psychopathy
The amygdala has been found to be smaller in psychopathic individuals than in nonpsychopathic ones. A smaller amygdala might explain why psychopathic individuals lack empathy and are not fearful.
Adrian Raine, D.Phil., chair of criminology at the University of Pennsylvania, has a passion. It is peering into the brains of antisocial people to see whether their brains differ from those of people who are not antisocial.
He is finding that such a difference does in fact exist.
More information on Raine’s work can be found here: http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Raine_Adrian_2506012.aspx
Kent Kiehl has done extensive work with a mobile MRI scanner in prisons. His work: http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/ReferencesView.aspx?PersonID=24001607
“A defendant’s fMRI brain scan has been used in court for what is believed to be the first time.
Brain scan evidence that the defense claimed shows the defendant’s brain was psychopathic was allowed into the sentencing portion of a murder trial in Chicago, Science reported Monday. Brian Dugan, who had been convicted of the rape and murder of a 10-year-old, was sentenced to death, despite the fMRI scans.”
The intent of the defense was to claim that the defendant was not fully culpable due his psychopathy. Did this strategy work? Of course not. In the real world, do individuals ever forgive or absolve of responsibility their victimizers upon realizing the victimizer is a psychopath? No.
fMRI Evidence Used in Murder Sentencing
Dugan exhibits the antisocial behavior, inpulsivity, lack of remorse, and other characteristics of psychopathy in spades, says Kent Kiehl, a neuroscientist at the University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, and the Mind Research Network, who served as an expert witness for the defense. Dugan scored 37 out of 40 points on the standard diagnostic checklist for psychopathy, putting him in the 99.5th percentile, Kiehl says.
Kiehl conducts research on psychopathy in New Mexico state prisons in which he and colleagues collect life histories, anatomical brain scans, and fMRI scans of brain activity as inmates perform various tasks, including tests of moral reasoning. Using scanners at Northwestern University, Kiehl ran Dugan through a similar battery of tests. Kiehl testified that Dugan exhibited abnormalities similar to those he and others have reported in other psychopaths. Kiehl says he was careful not to stretch beyond what the data show. He didn’t claim, for example, that the brain scans prove that Dugan committed his crimes as a result of a brain abnormality. “It’s just one piece of evidence that his brain is different,” he says.
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[from the comments] I think it would be easier to sentence such a total psychopath to death because he is missing an essential piece of whatever it is that makes us human.
I think that comment reflects the way people really think.
These legal strategists need to get out in the real world more. Maybe take a Greyhound bus from Harrisburg, PA to Omaha, NE or just have beers at the corner bar more often.
Basically I like the idea of brain scans being brought into court — but for the exact opposite reason. I think the psychopathic guilty would be found guilty more often than they are now. And that they would be put away for longer sentences. Juries would know that they weren’t dealing with daily reality. I believe juries try very hard to walk in the shoes, place themselves in the position of the accused to try to understand the accused’s behavior. But this assumes that the psyche they are trying to get into is similar to theirs. This is simply not true for psychopaths. Thus juries would have to think differently in approaching guilt and innocence in trials of psychopaths — which I believe they could and should do.
Now obviously there could be a danger of such a situation being too prejudicial. So this idea would need to be fine tuned, tried out with sample juries, etc. or confined to the most serious crimes or crimes with a high potential of psychopathic actors. Perhaps it could be restricted to such felonies as pedophilia, child murder, rape and murder.
It would also open up the possibility of involuntary commitment of psychopathic individuals of danger to society, which would have different standards of evidence from a legal trial. For example, the prolific serial killer Dr. Swango (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Swango) should have been incarcerated in a mental hospital years earlier than when he was eventually found guilty.
For some background info and links: Neurolaw and Psychopath (http://lawneuro.typepad.com/the-law-and-neuroscience-blog/2009/08/neurolaw-and-psychopathy.html). The Law and Neuroscience Blog seems to think that brain/genetic research on psychopaths will “change our perception of their moral and legal culpability.” We shall see. I predict the exact opposite.
I’d like to look at the continuum from imprisoned failed sociopaths to SAPs (socially adept sociopaths). Basically they are all adherents of the credo, ‘you call it cheating, I call it winning.’ The failed sociopaths have problems with the cheating part (i.e., getting caught), the SAPs can be phenomenal at it.
In my opinion across the spectrum they all have characteristics in common. They are all like a child in a candy store. Their wants are as big as their eyes, with the same childhood sense of entitlement. They want everything they see. A low level sociopath will simply reach out and start taking and end up in jail. A SAP will be able to restrain this reaching until safe opportunities present themselves. But the basic desires are identical. There is also a whole panoply of related arrested development characteristics. In my opinion, all sociopaths are in a state of immature sexuality. Essentially they never progress past childhood sex play, orgasms are simply thrown in. Similarly, their personality, reasoning, moral, etc. development are also stunted.
Though they may not choose to do so, all sociopaths in my opinion see nothing intrinsically wrong with seducing a 13 year-old girl neighbor into prostitution, incest, “Dress Grey” raping of a straight or closeted gay buddy (i.e., individuals who would be unlikely to press charges due to the publicity), spreading AIDs with no concern, torturing a child in front of a parent, or a parent in front of a child, viewing others as tissue paper to be used and discarded, etc. I believe this to be true no matter how well educated, well dressed or well spoken a sociopath may be.
What then separates the SAPs from the failed (and caught) sociopaths? I see the situation as being the balancing of two countervailing pressures. One pressure, drive actually, is to reach out, take and dominate. The other pressure is simply the need to get away with it, which has both internal and external aspects. Failed sociopaths lack the internal resources to restrain themselves (apparently, some people, including many professional researchers, consider only these individuals to be true sociopaths — they couldn’t be more wrong). Other sociopaths have the internal resources, but only if the external environment (i.e., the threat of some punishment) necessitates it. The continuum is really a scale of talent at being hypocritical. The advanced SAPs are simply magnificent hypocrites — able to bide their time, be patient, realistically assess their position in the food chain (the concept of the food chain is central to sociopath life stories), restrain their arrogance, desire for dominance and rudeness and wait for opportunities without consequence for indulging their sociopathic wants, etc. Hypocrisy is simply their main lifetool, as swimming is the main lifetool for a fish.
It is always educational, when evaluating a possible sociopath, to note how the individual consistently behaves around those “lower in the food chain” — it can be quite amazing. If a superior is a devotee, sadly they will often believe the sociopath and not their eyes.
Apparently, the current rage in the field is the argument over whether sociopathy is a normal-to-special-trait continuum (similar to tallness) or a present/not present trait (such as blue eyes). It is the latter. The only way that so-called scientists can make the former argument is that they have no idea of what they are talking about. See the story of the five blind men and the elephant. This is quite apparent from the amazing quote from J. Seabrook’s “Suffering Souls, the Search for the Roots of Psychopathy” in The New Yorker, “Unlike most academic psychopathy researchers, Kiehl has spent many hours in the company of his subjects. When he meets colleagues at conferences, he told me, “they always ask, ‘What are they like?’ These are guys who have spent twenty years studying psychopaths and never met one.” http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/10/081110fa_fact_seabrook
As always I’m merely saying that in my opinion the following stories raise issues of possible sociopathic behavior or sociopathic-like behavior. I suggest we all scan all news stories for possible sociopathic elements.
Prominent Austin Activist Admits He Infiltrated RNC Protest Groups as FBI Informant
LISA FITHIAN: Well, I think this community has really been reeling as a result of this news. We feel sickened. We feel traumatized. We feel as if somebody that we thought actually had good intentions and cared for this community has been a lie. . . . I have no question that he’s a provocateur. I mean, I’ve worked with Brandon for a long time, and everywhere that Brandon has worked, there has been discord, tension, aggression. http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/6/prominent_austin_activist_admits_he_infiltrated
“[E]verywhere that Brandon has worked, there has been discourse, tension, aggression” — that’s what you would expect from a sociopath. In addition, he buttered up those in authority, which sociopaths tend to do before commencing their campaigns.
MALIK RAHIM: I’m going to tell you, Amy, it broke my heart. It broke my heart. It literally broke my heart, because from the time that we founded—and I hate to—because Lisa is also a person that I love and respect, but Brandon was here from the very beginning. He was one of the founders of Common Ground. He was here. When we started Common Ground, Brandon was right here. He was out trying to find kin. I don’t know what happened. It was a lot of animosity. It was a lot of things that we had to deal with, like Lisa said, and always Brandon was at the forefront in it. You know, I feel—I mean, in retrospect, as I look back at it now, you know, I feel guilty about a lot of things. . . . I know that there’s been many people that left from Common Ground in frustration, and many of it was due in part because of Brandon. Many young ladies, many individuals that he literally ran off, you know? It just tackles me. I couldn’t read the whole letter. You know, I haven’t been able to read it, because of the fact that every time I do, it breaks me down into tears. http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/6/prominent_austin_activist_admits_he_infiltrated
Notice the depth of the feelings of emotional betrayal — you see this over and over again. It seems that sociopathic betrayal of friendship and love (both of which they only mime) leaves a mixture of heartbreak and the feeling of having been slimed.
Activists should always worry about sociopathic agent provocateurs — it is a perfect match of talent to task.
This item seems to have attracted some attention so let me list some traits to keep in mind. Look for (in no particular order) any or all of the following: a Zelig like ability to be all things to all people, an incredible ability to inveigle themselves into the good graces of authority figures, individuals for whom the phrase two-sided is a vast underestimation, a delight in causing discord through subtle puppet mastery, a vast and deep irresponsibility, an “eggshell” type personality which is always threatening to respond in childish anger if thwarted, and as always both a deep arrogance with no discernible cause and an extreme talent at eliciting pity. Some of these insights may come in “a blinding flash” — you should pay attention to them. Of course some of these traits are not unique to sociopaths, however in sociopaths they have a “unique flavor” which I think will become evident after recognizing the first few sociopaths.
One must always be careful not to jump on a guilty as charged bandwagon simply because the charges are so outrageous. Judge Samuel Kent will have his day in court, the point here is the alleged behavior, which I have heard of before with likely sociopathic jurists.
Judge in Texas pleads innocent to new sex charges
A federal judge charged with fondling a court employee and trying to force her into a sexual act pleaded innocent Wednesday to new allegations brought by another former employee. http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/weird/107030.php
Federal Judge Indicted in Sex Abuse Case
As a sociopathic acquaintance once said to me, “Why have a position of authority if you can’t take advantage of it?”
Once the MRI test is considered reliable enough, I believe all judges and prosecutors should routinely be screened for sociopathy. Futurepundit article quoting Adrian Raines, http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001998.html. John Seabrook’s article on Kent Kiehl’s brain scanning machine in the The New Yorker, http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/10/081110fa_fact_seabrook.
Bart Whitaker, Kent Whitaker
Forgiving the Son Who Killed My Family
The Sugar Land Conspiracy
An All-American Family Is Gunned Down In A Bizarre Plot
Heather Mills and Paul McCartney
‘Dignified’ McCartney Rips Mouthy Mills
Heather Mills and Paul McCartney: The rock icon and former model split up in 2006 after a four-year marriage. In court papers, Mills accused McCartney of being violent and abusive. He denied the claims. In March, she was awarded a $48.6 million settlement. At the hearing, she doused McCartney’s attorney with water. http://www.popeater.com/music/article/paul-mccartney-heather-mills-divorce/320260
Is Heather Mills a sociopathic golddigger? The wealthy, beautiful and famous are always targets for sociopathic love cons (fortunately I don’t have any of those problems).
The following websites are examples of individuals being driven to share their knowledge, come to grips with their experiences or warn the unwary.
Dealing With Diabolical Danielle Weblog
A “Beware of Poison Ivy” site.
Holy Water Salt
a blog about irradiating evil through “light”
Both a personal experience and general knowledge site.
Charmed, I’m Sure
Seems to be notes of personal experience intended to be used in a documentary.
Questions About the Book
The emotional devastation of falling for an emotionless sociopathic mimic.
A big get together — shared stories, outrages, speculations. The testimonies here may seem unbelievable to the inexperienced or uninitiated but they’re very real. A few quotes below (emphasis added):
I too raised a psychopath, who has murdered once and tried to murder me. I also raised two young men who are fine men. . . .
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This past year when my P son and his cronies were trying to kill me (at least, but probably other members of the family would have been targeted after I was gone and when I fled and they couldn’t find me, they tried to kill my son C) in any case, I WAS FREAKING OUT, TOTALLY INSANE, UNABLE TO THINK OR FUNCTION. . . .
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I understand the pain of realizing (finally) that your child, the child you planned for, gave birth to, nursed and loved is a monster beyond redemption. I understand the emotional and yes, PHYSICAL PAIN, of turning your back on that child (even though they are now an adult) and emotionally burying that child in your heart, as if they were dead, to at least preserve the memories you had of when the child was an infant, a toddler, and a young child that was the shining light of your life. I sort of feel like my child died and his organs were donated, but the MAN who has his organs is a monster, and not my son, any more than it would be if his kidneys or his eyes had been donated instead of his whole body.
The memories of the “morphing” years when he quit being the shining child and became the monstrous adolescent, then murdering man, those were the most difficult years of my life and I held on to toxic hope for 20 years after I should have “let go”—but I guess I thought the letting go was so painful I couldn’t handle it, but I know that the NOT LETTING GO was MORE PAINFUL and became so painful it was LET GO OR DIE. I chose, finally, to let go and live. It was so hard, harder than anything I have ever done.
Unlike Todd, I have my own monster out of my house, but I keep the guns CLOSE because I never know as long as he is alive when he might send another of his friends to try to kill me, for revenge, if no other reason. Both of my other sons and I are armed, or within reach of a gun at all times, day and night
She uses the kids as pawns. She molested her son, he told his therapist (at 4 years old). Drew pictures of her vagina, doesn’t like hair in his mouth, wet the bed, the whole nine yards. She got out of it. We’ve been in custody hearings for a year and a half. The judge feels SORRY FOR HER!!!
I’m with Holywater (10/10 9:53 am) when she says:
“I think once you’ve been around a p you know the difference- they’re not insane, and once the mask slips, or you catch a glimpse, it’s nothing you’ve ever seen before unless of course you’ve known other p’s.
I recently was asked to prove my p was/is unfit for a position, nothing I said/experienced matter…lucky for me I track him- so I proved through concrete evidence “he says one thing, does another”
Recognising a p is not rocket science.”
It’s that “oh, moment” you look for . . . . To decide if someone may be a s/p I at first follow a rough checklist but then I wait for a gestalt type emotional/mental “click” or “oh, moment.” It is only at that point, if the answer is yes, that I can say ‘yes, that person is a s/p.’ And I agree it is not rocket science, anyone with normal emotional intelligence can do it.
I also agree that to communicate with others you have to concentrate on the s/p’s behavior. The “oh, moment” of recognition is not transferable to others. They have to go through their own emotional/mental processes to get there.
The New Yorker writes about researchers’ struggle to study psychopaths
. . . Although the story is comprehensive, one of the points made me think that we at Lovefraud have a better understanding of psychopaths than researchers.
“Unlike most academic psychopathy researchers, Kiehl has spent many hours in the company of his subjects. When he meets colleagues at conferences, he told me, “they always ask, ‘What are they like?’ These are guys who have spent twenty years studying psychopaths and never met one.” . . .
This is scary—many researchers in psychopathy never met one? We should consider ourselves better informed, because we’ve all had extremely close encounters with these predators. And we know exactly how the ones who are not in jail behave.