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Are we living through an unrecognized double black swan event?

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on August 16, 2018| 2 Comments »

First — it is now possible to objectively/scientifically recognize psychopaths (which will, I’m convinced, support Martha Stout’s cited estimate of 4% or 1 in 25 being a psychopath, ((K. Barry et al. (1997), R. Bland, S. Newman, H. Orn (1988), J. Samuels et al. (1994)), and my anecdotal agreement (from recognizing psychopaths waiting for the subway, at street corners, in the workplace, etc.).  Second — their unhappy response to this, i.e., their machinations to seize power over the rest of us – political, economic, and through the surveillance built into the internet of things of great utility and convenience.  Surveillance that can close like a vise on any chosen target.  We carry our own handcuffs with us.

“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.” – George Orwell.  The Fabian, George Orwell, was a psychopath writing how-to books, as was Aldous Huxley also.  H.G. Wells of The Time Machine with the Eloi and Morlocks was also a Fabian and a psychopath.  The books seem to understand our plight from our own standpoint but only because psychopaths have something called “cold empathy.”  They know exactly how their targets will experience their attacks, it helps them ‘twist the stiletto’.

See the two prior posts (A hearsay tale involving Andrew Cuomo, and Commenter: “To borrow your own phrase, this nonsense has got to stop, one cannot recognize psychopaths by sight” — but, but, what if you are actually doing so without knowing it? (Mark Zuckerberg, in this case)).

Think what 1 in 25 being psychopaths mean.  It means that for every group of 25 that you’ve ever known, there was probably one psychopath.  It means we all walk shoulder to shoulder everyday with psychopathic beings who have zero fellow human feelings, emotionless, guiltless beings who see our emotional responses as weakness and know how to use them against us.

So why don’t we all know this?  I see two reasons.  First, as psychopaths always say (and I’ve heard them say this personally),we all believe what we want to believe.  Nobody wants to recognize Dad as a psychopath or Mom, bro or sis.  They just have issues and will put their lives together very soon, any day now.  Second, we should ask The New Yorker why they published the Psychopathic Whisperer, oopsie, my bad, the Psychopath Whisperer, Kent Kiehl’s drivel of psychopaths being so rare most people will never know any.  Who and what is The New Yorker? (https://pathwhisperer.info/2018/01/23/trust-me-im-a-doctor-this-is-a-medical-treatment-psychopath-larry-nassar-md-molests-young-female-gymnasts-for-20-plus-years/#comment-139406).

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‘Trust me, I’m a doctor, this is a medical treatment’ — Dr. Larry Nassar, psychopath, molests young female gymnasts for 20 plus years

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on January 23, 2018| 7 Comments »


Larry Nassar Was A Master Manipulator, But He Didn’t Act Alone

144 Women and Girls To Make Victim Impact Statements at Larry Nassar’s Sentencing

Sexual molester Larry Nassar played the victim in court

Michigan State employees reportedly knew about Larry Nassar’s abuse and did nothing

This saga raises numerous issues.

    1. Obviously he was enabled and protected by others.  I’m sure this included otherwise noncriminal psychopaths.  Protecting other psychopaths (from the empath world) is almost their prime directive — second to protecting themselves of course, but just barely, they take huge risks for each other. . . . But, but . . . are these really risks if no one ever recognizes what the enabling psychopaths are doing?
    2. How could he think he could get away with this, I?  Should psychopaths be considered psychotic as well as congenitally morally insane?  . . .  But, but . . . if he got away with this so long, is it still psychotic of him to think he could?  Who’s more psychotic, psychopaths or those of us operating from ingrained assumed normalcy/similarity bias?  Doctors aren’t supposed to be this aberrant, thus many wouldn’t/didn’t even entertain the possibility.
    3. How could he think he could get away with this, II?  Psychopaths are in a state of personality wide arrested development.  Time doesn’t go by for them.  They are all Peter Pans. Only outside forces would cause a change of behavior.  As far as he was concerned he had a winning system.
    4. Where was the press prior to 2016?  I’m getting more and more convinced that the protection of psychopaths, that the hiding of the true number of psychopaths is not a passive failure of the press, but an active, purposeful effort.
    5. If the press had done it’s job maybe some of the adults told would have thought, “well that’s a very strange story, doctors aren’t supposed to be that aberrant — but perhaps Nassar’s a psychopath,” and pushed for a criminal investigation.  Assumed normalcy/similarity bias assumes there are limits to human behavior.  Psychopaths cross that limit all the time.  A favorite phrase of psychopaths that one comes across all the time (I once heard it directly from a psychopath in a joking situation):  ‘go ahead and tell, no one will believe you anyway.’
    6. Several of the young women giving victim impact statements described how Larry Nassar stared at them during the whole testimony and how surprised they were.  As a psychopath Dr. Nassar felt no guilt, no bad conscience — there was no reason for him to look away.  Or perhaps he was trying one last pity play, a nonverbal pity play that wasn’t even received due to the fury of the testifiers.  Or perhaps he was hoping they would remember the ‘good times’, when he would be supportive of them, even giving them food against the rigorous training rules.
    7. Larry Nassar’s behavior led to suicides, Kyle Stephens’ father and Chelsea Markham.  Kyle Stephens:  “You convinced my parents I was a liar”.  Victim of ex-USA gymnastics doctor says abuse led to dad’s suicide. Unintegratable psychopathic interference (that blows others’s worlds apart) in other people’s lives is absolutely one of the main causes of suicide.  The article also brings up the suicide of one of the victims.
    8. Arrogance is often the first sign of psychopathy noticed.  Larry Nassar was sometimes arrogant, sometimes nervous, during only interview on sex abuse — Tim Evans’ 2016 interview of Larry Nassar in the IndyStar.
    9. Larry Nassar should not be considered a normal human ‘who went wrong.’  But rather as an emotional/reality illusionist human alternate.  You and I can carry out two, maybe three, mental tasks at one time — psychopaths probably five or so.  Think of the effort it took for him to molest his charges while talking calmly to their parents who were on the outside of the curtain.  They have different brains from us.  Larry Nassar is a pseudo human, a nonhuman human.
    10. The judge, Rosemarie Aquilina, should order that his DNA be sequenced and released publicly.
    11. The Larry Nassar saga represents a massive failure of adults, of adults failing to live up to their adultness.  I’m sure Dr. Nassar considered the parents too stupid to catch him.
    12. On a personal level I’m still totally amazed by this.  20 years of adult failure.  All of the parents allowed the ‘dry reasoning of the mind’ to override their reading of their daughters’ (and now we know, not surprisingly, sons’) emotional turmoil?
    13. I have no strategy that could have reached them.  In this blog, I think I will simply eschew strategy and simply call ’em as I see ’em.  Obviously, readers can take it however they wish.
    14. It took twenty years to control Larry Nassar.  NYC doesn’t have twenty years to control John Miller of the NYPD.  The presence of a congenitally morally insane individual as Deputy Commissioner of Intelligence and Counter-terrorism must be in contravention of the city charter and the oaths sworn to by the mayor and police commissioner.  I’ll front a lawsuit pro se if any attorneys wish to join me in advisor capacities (I couldn’t be disbarred or punished in other ways).

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From Psychopath Resistance: Power of the Internet

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , on July 22, 2015| Leave a Comment »

powerofint

https://psychopathresistance.wordpress.com/2015/07/20/the-power-of-the-internet/

Phrase source (at the bottom):  http://180rule.com/psychopaths-are-opportunists/

At Psychopathresistance a commenter warned us of not getting too cocky.  No one’s cocky.  Psychopathresistance, Pathwhisperer could disappear.  It woudn’t make any difference.  The internet has already destroyed the ghetto-ization of knowledge of psychopathy purposely brought about by psychopathic “psychopathy experts”.  Psychopathic arrogances at the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-V) who pretend psychopathy doesn’t exist (that’s like pretending red hair doesn’t exist — you couldn’t make this stuff up) have already been outflanked.  The “Psychopath Whisperer”, Kent Kiehl, who always serves psychopathic interests, who writes of psychopathic truths, but then writes repeatedly that they are so rare that few will ever meet a psychopath is tilting at windmills and is already irrelevant.  However, AI in the hands of psychopaths, that would worry me.

 

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The Church should call on science — preventing new Father Murphy scandals

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , on March 27, 2010| Leave a Comment »

For Years, Deaf Boys Tried to Tell of Priest’s Abuse

They were deaf, but they were not silent. For decades, a group of men who were sexually abused as children by the Rev. Lawrence C. Murphy at a school for the deaf in Wisconsin reported to every type of official they could think of that he was a danger, according to the victims and church documents

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/27/us/27wisconsin.html?ref=global-home

Staring Abuse Straight in the Face

After Years of Suffering, Former Students of St. John’s School for the Deaf Confront the Priest Who Assaulted Them As Boys, Demanding He Accept Blame

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2006/03_04/2006_03_27_Zahn_StaringAbuse.htm

The Catholic Church (and all organizations where the “wolves can hide out among the sheep”) should use brain scanning technology to help recognize sociopaths.  Of course this could also be extended to applicants for “belly to the bar”, “snout in the public trough” jobs such as politicians and union officials.  It absolutely should be used in parole decisions regarding pedophiles, rapists and murderers (indeed, some could be sent straight from prison to mental hospitals — or if legal evidence is not sufficient sent straight to mental hospitals).

Abnormal Brain Region Characterizes Those With Psychopathy

The amygdala has been found to be smaller in psychopathic individuals than in nonpsychopathic ones. A smaller amygdala might explain why psychopathic individuals lack empathy and are not fearful.

Adrian Raine, D.Phil., chair of criminology at the University of Pennsylvania, has a passion. It is peering into the brains of antisocial people to see whether their brains differ from those of people who are not antisocial.

He is finding that such a difference does in fact exist.

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/44/20/17.2.full

More information on Raine’s work can be found here:  http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Raine_Adrian_2506012.aspx

Kent Kiehl has done extensive work with a mobile MRI scanner in prisons.  His work:  http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/ReferencesView.aspx?PersonID=24001607

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“Courtroom First: Brain Scan Used in Murder Sentencing”

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , , on December 16, 2009| 4 Comments »

“A defendant’s fMRI brain scan has been used in court for what is believed to be the first time.

Brain scan evidence that the defense claimed shows the defendant’s brain was psychopathic was allowed into the sentencing portion of a murder trial in Chicago, Science reported Monday. Brian Dugan, who had been convicted of the rape and murder of a 10-year-old, was sentenced to death, despite the fMRI scans.”

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/11/brain-scan-murder-sentencing/

The intent of the defense was to claim that the defendant was not fully culpable due his psychopathy.  Did this strategy work?  Of course not. In the real world, do individuals ever forgive or absolve of responsibility their victimizers upon realizing the victimizer is a psychopath?  No.

fMRI Evidence Used in Murder Sentencing

Dugan exhibits the antisocial behavior, inpulsivity, lack of remorse, and other characteristics of psychopathy in spades, says Kent Kiehl, a neuroscientist at the University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, and the Mind Research Network, who served as an expert witness for the defense. Dugan scored 37 out of 40 points on the standard diagnostic checklist for psychopathy, putting him in the 99.5th percentile, Kiehl says.

Kiehl conducts research on psychopathy in New Mexico state prisons in which he and colleagues collect life histories, anatomical brain scans, and fMRI scans of brain activity as inmates perform various tasks, including tests of moral reasoning. Using scanners at Northwestern University, Kiehl ran Dugan through a similar battery of tests. Kiehl testified that Dugan exhibited abnormalities similar to those he and others have reported in other psychopaths. Kiehl says he was careful not to stretch beyond what the data show. He didn’t claim, for example, that the brain scans prove that Dugan committed his crimes as a result of a brain abnormality. “It’s just one piece of evidence that his brain is different,” he says.

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[from the comments] I think it would be easier to sentence such a total psychopath to death because he is missing an essential piece of whatever it is that makes us human.

http://blogs.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2009/11/fmri-evidence-u.html.

I think that comment reflects the way people really think.

These legal strategists need to get out in the real world more.  Maybe take a Greyhound bus from Harrisburg, PA to Omaha, NE or just have beers at the corner bar more often.

Basically I like the idea of brain scans being brought into court — but for the exact opposite reason.  I think the psychopathic guilty would be found guilty more often than they are now.  And that they would be put away for longer sentences.  Juries would know that they weren’t dealing with daily reality.  I believe juries try very hard to walk in the shoes, place themselves in the position of the accused to try to understand the accused’s behavior.  But this assumes that the psyche they are trying to get into is similar to theirs.  This is simply not true for psychopaths.  Thus juries would have to think differently in approaching guilt and innocence in  trials of psychopaths — which I believe they could and should do.

Now obviously there could be a danger of such a situation being too prejudicial.  So this idea would need to be fine tuned, tried out with sample juries, etc. or confined to the most serious crimes or crimes with a high potential of psychopathic actors.  Perhaps it could be restricted to such felonies as pedophilia, child murder, rape and murder.

It would also open up the possibility of involuntary commitment of psychopathic individuals of danger to society, which would have different standards of evidence from a legal trial.  For example, the prolific serial killer Dr. Swango (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Swango) should have been incarcerated in a mental hospital years earlier than when he was eventually found guilty.

Michael Swango, M.D.

For some background info and links:  Neurolaw and Psychopath (http://lawneuro.typepad.com/the-law-and-neuroscience-blog/2009/08/neurolaw-and-psychopathy.html).   The Law and Neuroscience Blog seems to think that brain/genetic research on psychopaths will “change our perception of their moral and legal culpability.”  We shall see.  I predict the exact opposite.

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Sociopathic throughlines

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , on April 15, 2009| 7 Comments »

I’d like to look at the continuum from imprisoned failed sociopaths to SAPs (socially adept sociopaths).  Basically they are all adherents of the credo, ‘you call it cheating, I call it winning.’  The failed sociopaths have problems with the cheating part (i.e., getting caught), the SAPs can be phenomenal at it.

In my opinion across the spectrum they all have characteristics in common.  They are all like a child in a candy store.  Their wants are as big as their eyes, with the same childhood sense of entitlement.  They want everything they see.  A low level sociopath will simply reach out and start taking and end up in jail.  A SAP will be able to restrain this reaching until safe opportunities present themselves.  But the basic desires are identical. There is also a whole panoply of related arrested development characteristics.  In my opinion, all sociopaths are in a state of immature sexuality.  Essentially they never progress past childhood sex play, orgasms are simply thrown in.  Similarly, their personality, reasoning, moral, etc. development are also stunted.

Though they may not choose to do so, all sociopaths in my opinion see nothing intrinsically wrong with seducing a 13 year-old girl neighbor into prostitution, incest, “Dress Grey” raping of a straight or closeted gay buddy (i.e., individuals who would be unlikely to press charges due to the publicity), spreading AIDs with no concern, torturing a child in front of a parent, or a parent in front of a child, viewing others as tissue paper to be used and discarded, etc.  I believe this to be true no matter how well educated, well dressed or well spoken a sociopath may be.

What then separates the SAPs from the failed (and caught) sociopaths? I see the situation as being the balancing of two countervailing pressures.  One pressure, drive actually, is to reach out, take and dominate.  The other pressure is simply the need to get away with it, which has both internal and external aspects.  Failed sociopaths lack the internal resources to restrain themselves (apparently, some people, including many professional researchers, consider only these individuals to be true sociopaths — they couldn’t be more wrong).  Other sociopaths have the internal resources, but only if the external environment (i.e., the threat of some punishment) necessitates it.  The continuum is really a scale of talent at being hypocritical.  The advanced SAPs are simply magnificent hypocrites — able to bide their time, be patient, realistically assess their position in the food chain (the concept of the food chain is central to sociopath life stories), restrain their arrogance, desire for dominance and rudeness and wait for opportunities without consequence for indulging their sociopathic wants, etc.  Hypocrisy is simply their main lifetool, as swimming is the main lifetool for a fish.

It is always educational, when evaluating a possible sociopath, to note how the individual consistently behaves around those “lower in the food chain” — it can be quite amazing.  If a superior is a devotee, sadly they will often believe the sociopath and not their eyes.

Apparently, the current rage in the field is the argument over whether sociopathy is a normal-to-special-trait continuum (similar to tallness) or a present/not present trait (such as blue eyes).   It is the latter.  The only way that so-called scientists can make the former argument is that they have no idea of what they are talking about.  See the story of the five blind men and the elephant.  This is quite apparent from the amazing quote from J. Seabrook’s “Suffering Souls, the Search for the Roots of Psychopathy” in The New Yorker, “Unlike most academic psychopathy researchers, Kiehl has spent many hours in the company of his subjects. When he meets colleagues at conferences, he told me, “they always ask, ‘What are they like?’ These are guys who have spent twenty years studying psychopaths and never met one.” http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/10/081110fa_fact_seabrook

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Items of interest, some recent, some not so, some that suggest possible sociopathy, some that scream it

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , on February 18, 2009| 1 Comment »

As always I’m merely saying that in my opinion the following stories raise issues of possible sociopathic behavior or sociopathic-like behavior.  I suggest we all scan all news stories for possible sociopathic elements.

Brandon Darby

Prominent Austin Activist Admits He Infiltrated RNC Protest Groups as FBI Informant

LISA FITHIAN: Well, I think this community has really been reeling as a result of this news. We feel sickened. We feel traumatized. We feel as if somebody that we thought actually had good intentions and cared for this community has been a lie. . . . I have no question that he’s a provocateur. I mean, I’ve worked with Brandon for a long time, and everywhere that Brandon has worked, there has been discord, tension, aggression. http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/6/prominent_austin_activist_admits_he_infiltrated

“[E]verywhere that Brandon has worked, there has been discourse, tension, aggression” — that’s what you would expect from a sociopath.  In addition, he buttered up those in authority, which sociopaths tend to do before commencing their campaigns.

MALIK RAHIM: I’m going to tell you, Amy, it broke my heart. It broke my heart. It literally broke my heart, because from the time that we founded—and I hate to—because Lisa is also a person that I love and respect, but Brandon was here from the very beginning. He was one of the founders of Common Ground. He was here. When we started Common Ground, Brandon was right here. He was out trying to find kin. I don’t know what happened. It was a lot of animosity. It was a lot of things that we had to deal with, like Lisa said, and always Brandon was at the forefront in it. You know, I feel—I mean, in retrospect, as I look back at it now, you know, I feel guilty about a lot of things. . . . I know that there’s been many people that left from Common Ground in frustration, and many of it was due in part because of Brandon. Many young ladies, many individuals that he literally ran off, you know? It just tackles me. I couldn’t read the whole letter. You know, I haven’t been able to read it, because of the fact that every time I do, it breaks me down into tears. http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/6/prominent_austin_activist_admits_he_infiltrated

Notice the depth of the feelings of emotional betrayal — you see this over and over again.  It seems that sociopathic betrayal of friendship and love (both of which they only mime) leaves a mixture of heartbreak and the feeling of having been slimed.

Activists should always worry about sociopathic agent provocateurs — it is a perfect match of talent to task.

This item seems to have attracted some attention so let me list some traits to keep in mind.  Look for (in no particular order) any or all of the following:  a Zelig like ability to be all things to all people, an incredible ability to inveigle themselves into the good graces of authority figures, individuals for whom the phrase two-sided is a vast underestimation, a delight in causing discord through subtle puppet mastery, a vast and deep irresponsibility, an “eggshell” type personality which is always threatening to respond in childish anger if thwarted, and as always both a deep arrogance with no discernible cause and an extreme talent at eliciting pity.  Some of these insights may come in “a blinding flash” — you should pay attention to them.  Of course some of these traits are not unique to sociopaths, however in sociopaths they have a “unique flavor” which I think will become evident after recognizing the first few sociopaths.

Samuel Kent

One must always be careful not to jump on a guilty as charged bandwagon simply because the charges are so outrageous.  Judge Samuel Kent will have his day in court, the point here is the alleged behavior, which I have heard of before with likely sociopathic jurists.

Judge in Texas pleads innocent to new sex charges

A federal judge charged with fondling a court employee and trying to force her into a sexual act pleaded innocent Wednesday to new allegations brought by another former employee. http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/weird/107030.php

Federal Judge Indicted in Sex Abuse Case

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/FedCrimes/Story?id=5681319&page=1

As a sociopathic acquaintance once said to me, “Why have a position of authority if you can’t take advantage of it?”

Once the MRI test is considered reliable enough, I believe all judges and prosecutors should routinely be screened for sociopathy.  Futurepundit article quoting Adrian Raines, http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001998.html.  John Seabrook’s article on Kent Kiehl’s brain scanning machine in the The New Yorker, http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/10/081110fa_fact_seabrook.

Bart Whitaker, Kent Whitaker

The Whitaker family

The Whitaker family

Bart Whitaker

Bart Whitaker

Kent Whitaker, father

Kent Whitaker, father

Forgiving the Son Who Killed My Family

http://www.oprah.com/community/message/947018

The Sugar Land Conspiracy

An All-American Family Is Gunned Down In A Bizarre Plot

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/18/48hours/main3381002.shtml?source=mostpop_story

Heather Mills and Paul McCartney

Paul and Heather McCartney in happier days

Paul and Heather McCartney in happier days

‘Dignified’ McCartney Rips Mouthy Mills

Heather Mills and Paul McCartney: The rock icon and former model split up in 2006 after a four-year marriage. In court papers, Mills accused McCartney of being violent and abusive. He denied the claims. In March, she was awarded a $48.6 million settlement. At the hearing, she doused McCartney’s attorney with water. http://www.popeater.com/music/article/paul-mccartney-heather-mills-divorce/320260

Is Heather Mills a sociopathic golddigger?  The wealthy, beautiful and famous are always targets for sociopathic love cons (fortunately I don’t have any of those problems).

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The engine driving increased public awareness of sociopathy: personal experience

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , on November 30, 2008| 4 Comments »

The following websites are examples of individuals being driven to share their knowledge, come to grips with their experiences or warn the unwary.

Dealing With Diabolical Danielle Weblog
 http://able2love.wordpress.com/
A “Beware of Poison Ivy” site.

Holy Water Salt
a blog about irradiating evil through “light”
http://holywatersalt.blogspot.com/
Both a personal experience and general knowledge site.

Charmed, I’m Sure
http://documentarycharmed.wordpress.com/
Seems to be notes of personal experience intended to be used in a documentary.

Questions About the Book
http://www.whenyoucryicry.com/blog/
The emotional devastation of falling for an emotionless sociopathic mimic.

Lovefraud Blog
http://www.lovefraud.com/
A big get together — shared stories, outrages, speculations.  The testimonies here may seem unbelievable to the inexperienced or uninitiated but they’re very real.  A few quotes below (emphasis added):

I too raised a psychopath, who has murdered once and tried to murder me. I also raised two young men who are fine men.  . . .

. . .

This past year when my P son and his cronies were trying to kill me (at least, but probably other members of the family would have been targeted after I was gone and when I fled and they couldn’t find me, they tried to kill my son C) in any case, I WAS FREAKING OUT, TOTALLY INSANE, UNABLE TO THINK OR FUNCTION. . . .

. . .

I understand the pain of realizing (finally) that your child, the child you planned for, gave birth to, nursed and loved is a monster beyond redemption. I understand the emotional and yes, PHYSICAL PAIN, of turning your back on that child (even though they are now an adult) and emotionally burying that child in your heart, as if they were dead, to at least preserve the memories you had of when the child was an infant, a toddler, and a young child that was the shining light of your life. I sort of feel like my child died and his organs were donated, but the MAN who has his organs is a monster, and not my son, any more than it would be if his kidneys or his eyes had been donated instead of his whole body.

The memories of the “morphing” years when he quit being the shining child and became the monstrous adolescent, then murdering man, those were the most difficult years of my life and I held on to toxic hope for 20 years after I should have “let go”—but I guess I thought the letting go was so painful I couldn’t handle it, but I know that the NOT LETTING GO was MORE PAINFUL and became so painful it was LET GO OR DIE. I chose, finally, to let go and live. It was so hard, harder than anything I have ever done.

Unlike Todd, I have my own monster out of my house, but I keep the guns CLOSE because I never know as long as he is alive when he might send another of his friends to try to kill me, for revenge, if no other reason. Both of my other sons and I are armed, or within reach of a gun at all times, day and night

http://www.lovefraud.com/2008/10/10/sociopathic-children-and-psychopathic-traits-during-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-13740

She uses the kids as pawns. She molested her son, he told his therapist (at 4 years old). Drew pictures of her vagina, doesn’t like hair in his mouth, wet the bed, the whole nine yards. She got out of it. We’ve been in custody hearings for a year and a half. The judge feels SORRY FOR HER!!!

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/09/22/letters-to-lovefraud-how-can-we-deal-with-the-sociopathic-ex-wife/#comments

pathwhisperer says:

I’m with Holywater (10/10 9:53 am) when she says:

“I think once you’ve been around a p you know the difference- they’re not insane, and once the mask slips, or you catch a glimpse, it’s nothing you’ve ever seen before unless of course you’ve known other p’s.

I recently was asked to prove my p was/is unfit for a position, nothing I said/experienced matter…lucky for me I track him- so I proved through concrete evidence “he says one thing, does another”

Recognising a p is not rocket science.”

It’s that “oh, moment” you look for . . . . To decide if someone may be a s/p I at first follow a rough checklist but then I wait for a gestalt type emotional/mental “click” or “oh, moment.” It is only at that point, if the answer is yes, that I can say ‘yes, that person is a s/p.’ And I agree it is not rocket science, anyone with normal emotional intelligence can do it.

I also agree that to communicate with others you have to concentrate on the s/p’s behavior. The “oh, moment” of recognition is not transferable to others. They have to go through their own emotional/mental processes to get there.

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/10/09/the-sociopath-next-door-probably-not/#comments

The New Yorker writes about researchers’ struggle to study psychopaths

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/10/081110fa_fact_seabrook

. . . Although the story is comprehensive, one of the points made me think that we at Lovefraud have a better understanding of psychopaths than researchers.

“Unlike most academic psychopathy researchers, Kiehl has spent many hours in the company of his subjects. When he meets colleagues at conferences, he told me, “they always ask, ‘What are they like?’ These are guys who have spent twenty years studying psychopaths and never met one.” . . .

This is scary—many researchers in psychopathy never met one? We should consider ourselves better informed, because we’ve all had extremely close encounters with these predators. And we know exactly how the ones who are not in jail behave.

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/11/10/the-new-yorker-writes-about-researchers-struggle-to-study-psychopaths/

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Suzy Bass — What is Pseudologia Fantastica?

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , , , , on October 23, 2008| 7 Comments »

She Said She Had Breast Cancer—But She Lied

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“Suzy Bass had less than a year to live. The Knoxville, Tennessee, high school math teacher was battling stage IV breast cancer, and it had spread to her shoulder and heel. . . . “Everyone just loved her immediately. We could tell her anything.” . . . Webb’s students dedicated their prom fund-raiser to her . . . A week before the big dance, though, the school received a series of troubling phone calls. Bass, they said, was making the whole thing up. . . . A week after getting exposed, Bass pulled down her Facebook account, changed her phone number and disappeared. In her wake, she left a community of angry, bewildered people with many unanswered questions: How did she do it? How could we not have known? And the biggest, most puzzling one of all: Why?”

I first learned of pseudologia fantastica from a Discovery Channel documentary, Why We Lie. The only reference to the documentary I can find is at a business ethics site (they are extremely harmful to the workplace): Why We Lie

Though the word wasn’t used, it was apparent that pseudologues were also sociopaths — guileless manipulative ability, inspiring pity, geniuses at making others feel sorry for them, the truth was of no concern, amoral, etc. Apparently some researchers agree, some don’t — but there’s very little material on pseudologues. Wikipedia entry

From the few (two to be exact) I believe I have known I would say they are definitely sociopathic, but with a twist. Most sociopaths are not impaired at all in terms of reality testing. Pseudologues however don’t seem to realize there is a difference between reality and the stating of it, apparently unaware that reality is actually real. Furthermore, apparently their brains are structurally different. Habitual Liar Brains Look Different On Scans

The ones I knew were extreme sociopaths, they might as well have been emotionless machines that could calculate the proper emotional response incredibly quickly. In acting terms, the reaction was however a beat off, a noticeable delay — but why notice if the sociopath is saying everything you want to hear or has drawn you into their fantasy or has captured your caring nature to take of them.

Latest pseudologue (9/10/10): One more cancer hoax story: Jessica Vega, http://www.aolhealth.com/2010/09/08/jessica-vegas-cancer-hoax/. While the article doesn’t mention pseudologia fantastica or sociopathy directly, it does mention antisocial personality disorder which is a great advance.

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