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Are we living through an unrecognized double black swan event?

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on August 16, 2018| 2 Comments »

First — it is now possible to objectively/scientifically recognize psychopaths (which will, I’m convinced, support Martha Stout’s cited estimate of 4% or 1 in 25 being a psychopath, ((K. Barry et al. (1997), R. Bland, S. Newman, H. Orn (1988), J. Samuels et al. (1994)), and my anecdotal agreement (from recognizing psychopaths waiting for the subway, at street corners, in the workplace, etc.).  Second — their unhappy response to this, i.e., their machinations to seize power over the rest of us – political, economic, and through the surveillance built into the internet of things of great utility and convenience.  Surveillance that can close like a vise on any chosen target.  We carry our own handcuffs with us.

“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.” – George Orwell.  The Fabian, George Orwell, was a psychopath writing how-to books, as was Aldous Huxley also.  H.G. Wells of The Time Machine with the Eloi and Morlocks was also a Fabian and a psychopath.  The books seem to understand our plight from our own standpoint but only because psychopaths have something called “cold empathy.”  They know exactly how their targets will experience their attacks, it helps them ‘twist the stiletto’.

See the two prior posts (A hearsay tale involving Andrew Cuomo, and Commenter: “To borrow your own phrase, this nonsense has got to stop, one cannot recognize psychopaths by sight” — but, but, what if you are actually doing so without knowing it? (Mark Zuckerberg, in this case)).

Think what 1 in 25 being psychopaths mean.  It means that for every group of 25 that you’ve ever known, there was probably one psychopath.  It means we all walk shoulder to shoulder everyday with psychopathic beings who have zero fellow human feelings, emotionless, guiltless beings who see our emotional responses as weakness and know how to use them against us.

So why don’t we all know this?  I see two reasons.  First, as psychopaths always say (and I’ve heard them say this personally),we all believe what we want to believe.  Nobody wants to recognize Dad as a psychopath or Mom, bro or sis.  They just have issues and will put their lives together very soon, any day now.  Second, we should ask The New Yorker why they published the Psychopathic Whisperer, oopsie, my bad, the Psychopath Whisperer, Kent Kiehl’s drivel of psychopaths being so rare most people will never know any.  Who and what is The New Yorker? (https://pathwhisperer.info/2018/01/23/trust-me-im-a-doctor-this-is-a-medical-treatment-psychopath-larry-nassar-md-molests-young-female-gymnasts-for-20-plus-years/#comment-139406).

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‘Trust me, I’m a doctor, this is a medical treatment’ — Dr. Larry Nassar, psychopath, molests young female gymnasts for 20 plus years

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on January 23, 2018| 7 Comments »


Larry Nassar Was A Master Manipulator, But He Didn’t Act Alone

144 Women and Girls To Make Victim Impact Statements at Larry Nassar’s Sentencing

Sexual molester Larry Nassar played the victim in court

Michigan State employees reportedly knew about Larry Nassar’s abuse and did nothing

This saga raises numerous issues.

    1. Obviously he was enabled and protected by others.  I’m sure this included otherwise noncriminal psychopaths.  Protecting other psychopaths (from the empath world) is almost their prime directive — second to protecting themselves of course, but just barely, they take huge risks for each other. . . . But, but . . . are these really risks if no one ever recognizes what the enabling psychopaths are doing?
    2. How could he think he could get away with this, I?  Should psychopaths be considered psychotic as well as congenitally morally insane?  . . .  But, but . . . if he got away with this so long, is it still psychotic of him to think he could?  Who’s more psychotic, psychopaths or those of us operating from ingrained assumed normalcy/similarity bias?  Doctors aren’t supposed to be this aberrant, thus many wouldn’t/didn’t even entertain the possibility.
    3. How could he think he could get away with this, II?  Psychopaths are in a state of personality wide arrested development.  Time doesn’t go by for them.  They are all Peter Pans. Only outside forces would cause a change of behavior.  As far as he was concerned he had a winning system.
    4. Where was the press prior to 2016?  I’m getting more and more convinced that the protection of psychopaths, that the hiding of the true number of psychopaths is not a passive failure of the press, but an active, purposeful effort.
    5. If the press had done it’s job maybe some of the adults told would have thought, “well that’s a very strange story, doctors aren’t supposed to be that aberrant — but perhaps Nassar’s a psychopath,” and pushed for a criminal investigation.  Assumed normalcy/similarity bias assumes there are limits to human behavior.  Psychopaths cross that limit all the time.  A favorite phrase of psychopaths that one comes across all the time (I once heard it directly from a psychopath in a joking situation):  ‘go ahead and tell, no one will believe you anyway.’
    6. Several of the young women giving victim impact statements described how Larry Nassar stared at them during the whole testimony and how surprised they were.  As a psychopath Dr. Nassar felt no guilt, no bad conscience — there was no reason for him to look away.  Or perhaps he was trying one last pity play, a nonverbal pity play that wasn’t even received due to the fury of the testifiers.  Or perhaps he was hoping they would remember the ‘good times’, when he would be supportive of them, even giving them food against the rigorous training rules.
    7. Larry Nassar’s behavior led to suicides, Kyle Stephens’ father and Chelsea Markham.  Kyle Stephens:  “You convinced my parents I was a liar”.  Victim of ex-USA gymnastics doctor says abuse led to dad’s suicide. Unintegratable psychopathic interference (that blows others’s worlds apart) in other people’s lives is absolutely one of the main causes of suicide.  The article also brings up the suicide of one of the victims.
    8. Arrogance is often the first sign of psychopathy noticed.  Larry Nassar was sometimes arrogant, sometimes nervous, during only interview on sex abuse — Tim Evans’ 2016 interview of Larry Nassar in the IndyStar.
    9. Larry Nassar should not be considered a normal human ‘who went wrong.’  But rather as an emotional/reality illusionist human alternate.  You and I can carry out two, maybe three, mental tasks at one time — psychopaths probably five or so.  Think of the effort it took for him to molest his charges while talking calmly to their parents who were on the outside of the curtain.  They have different brains from us.  Larry Nassar is a pseudo human, a nonhuman human.
    10. The judge, Rosemarie Aquilina, should order that his DNA be sequenced and released publicly.
    11. The Larry Nassar saga represents a massive failure of adults, of adults failing to live up to their adultness.  I’m sure Dr. Nassar considered the parents too stupid to catch him.
    12. On a personal level I’m still totally amazed by this.  20 years of adult failure.  All of the parents allowed the ‘dry reasoning of the mind’ to override their reading of their daughters’ (and now we know, not surprisingly, sons’) emotional turmoil?
    13. I have no strategy that could have reached them.  In this blog, I think I will simply eschew strategy and simply call ’em as I see ’em.  Obviously, readers can take it however they wish.
    14. It took twenty years to control Larry Nassar.  NYC doesn’t have twenty years to control John Miller of the NYPD.  The presence of a congenitally morally insane individual as Deputy Commissioner of Intelligence and Counter-terrorism must be in contravention of the city charter and the oaths sworn to by the mayor and police commissioner.  I’ll front a lawsuit pro se if any attorneys wish to join me in advisor capacities (I couldn’t be disbarred or punished in other ways).

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Sociopathic throughlines

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , on April 15, 2009| 7 Comments »

I’d like to look at the continuum from imprisoned failed sociopaths to SAPs (socially adept sociopaths).  Basically they are all adherents of the credo, ‘you call it cheating, I call it winning.’  The failed sociopaths have problems with the cheating part (i.e., getting caught), the SAPs can be phenomenal at it.

In my opinion across the spectrum they all have characteristics in common.  They are all like a child in a candy store.  Their wants are as big as their eyes, with the same childhood sense of entitlement.  They want everything they see.  A low level sociopath will simply reach out and start taking and end up in jail.  A SAP will be able to restrain this reaching until safe opportunities present themselves.  But the basic desires are identical. There is also a whole panoply of related arrested development characteristics.  In my opinion, all sociopaths are in a state of immature sexuality.  Essentially they never progress past childhood sex play, orgasms are simply thrown in.  Similarly, their personality, reasoning, moral, etc. development are also stunted.

Though they may not choose to do so, all sociopaths in my opinion see nothing intrinsically wrong with seducing a 13 year-old girl neighbor into prostitution, incest, “Dress Grey” raping of a straight or closeted gay buddy (i.e., individuals who would be unlikely to press charges due to the publicity), spreading AIDs with no concern, torturing a child in front of a parent, or a parent in front of a child, viewing others as tissue paper to be used and discarded, etc.  I believe this to be true no matter how well educated, well dressed or well spoken a sociopath may be.

What then separates the SAPs from the failed (and caught) sociopaths? I see the situation as being the balancing of two countervailing pressures.  One pressure, drive actually, is to reach out, take and dominate.  The other pressure is simply the need to get away with it, which has both internal and external aspects.  Failed sociopaths lack the internal resources to restrain themselves (apparently, some people, including many professional researchers, consider only these individuals to be true sociopaths — they couldn’t be more wrong).  Other sociopaths have the internal resources, but only if the external environment (i.e., the threat of some punishment) necessitates it.  The continuum is really a scale of talent at being hypocritical.  The advanced SAPs are simply magnificent hypocrites — able to bide their time, be patient, realistically assess their position in the food chain (the concept of the food chain is central to sociopath life stories), restrain their arrogance, desire for dominance and rudeness and wait for opportunities without consequence for indulging their sociopathic wants, etc.  Hypocrisy is simply their main lifetool, as swimming is the main lifetool for a fish.

It is always educational, when evaluating a possible sociopath, to note how the individual consistently behaves around those “lower in the food chain” — it can be quite amazing.  If a superior is a devotee, sadly they will often believe the sociopath and not their eyes.

Apparently, the current rage in the field is the argument over whether sociopathy is a normal-to-special-trait continuum (similar to tallness) or a present/not present trait (such as blue eyes).   It is the latter.  The only way that so-called scientists can make the former argument is that they have no idea of what they are talking about.  See the story of the five blind men and the elephant.  This is quite apparent from the amazing quote from J. Seabrook’s “Suffering Souls, the Search for the Roots of Psychopathy” in The New Yorker, “Unlike most academic psychopathy researchers, Kiehl has spent many hours in the company of his subjects. When he meets colleagues at conferences, he told me, “they always ask, ‘What are they like?’ These are guys who have spent twenty years studying psychopaths and never met one.” http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/10/081110fa_fact_seabrook

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The engine driving increased public awareness of sociopathy: personal experience

Posted in General, tagged , , , , , , , , on November 30, 2008| 4 Comments »

The following websites are examples of individuals being driven to share their knowledge, come to grips with their experiences or warn the unwary.

Dealing With Diabolical Danielle Weblog
 http://able2love.wordpress.com/
A “Beware of Poison Ivy” site.

Holy Water Salt
a blog about irradiating evil through “light”
http://holywatersalt.blogspot.com/
Both a personal experience and general knowledge site.

Charmed, I’m Sure
http://documentarycharmed.wordpress.com/
Seems to be notes of personal experience intended to be used in a documentary.

Questions About the Book
http://www.whenyoucryicry.com/blog/
The emotional devastation of falling for an emotionless sociopathic mimic.

Lovefraud Blog

How to recognize and recover from the sociopaths – narcissists in your life


A big get together — shared stories, outrages, speculations.  The testimonies here may seem unbelievable to the inexperienced or uninitiated but they’re very real.  A few quotes below (emphasis added):

I too raised a psychopath, who has murdered once and tried to murder me. I also raised two young men who are fine men.  . . .

. . .

This past year when my P son and his cronies were trying to kill me (at least, but probably other members of the family would have been targeted after I was gone and when I fled and they couldn’t find me, they tried to kill my son C) in any case, I WAS FREAKING OUT, TOTALLY INSANE, UNABLE TO THINK OR FUNCTION. . . .

. . .

I understand the pain of realizing (finally) that your child, the child you planned for, gave birth to, nursed and loved is a monster beyond redemption. I understand the emotional and yes, PHYSICAL PAIN, of turning your back on that child (even though they are now an adult) and emotionally burying that child in your heart, as if they were dead, to at least preserve the memories you had of when the child was an infant, a toddler, and a young child that was the shining light of your life. I sort of feel like my child died and his organs were donated, but the MAN who has his organs is a monster, and not my son, any more than it would be if his kidneys or his eyes had been donated instead of his whole body.

The memories of the “morphing” years when he quit being the shining child and became the monstrous adolescent, then murdering man, those were the most difficult years of my life and I held on to toxic hope for 20 years after I should have “let go”—but I guess I thought the letting go was so painful I couldn’t handle it, but I know that the NOT LETTING GO was MORE PAINFUL and became so painful it was LET GO OR DIE. I chose, finally, to let go and live. It was so hard, harder than anything I have ever done.

Unlike Todd, I have my own monster out of my house, but I keep the guns CLOSE because I never know as long as he is alive when he might send another of his friends to try to kill me, for revenge, if no other reason. Both of my other sons and I are armed, or within reach of a gun at all times, day and night

http://www.lovefraud.com/2008/10/10/sociopathic-children-and-psychopathic-traits-during-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-13740

She uses the kids as pawns. She molested her son, he told his therapist (at 4 years old). Drew pictures of her vagina, doesn’t like hair in his mouth, wet the bed, the whole nine yards. She got out of it. We’ve been in custody hearings for a year and a half. The judge feels SORRY FOR HER!!!

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/09/22/letters-to-lovefraud-how-can-we-deal-with-the-sociopathic-ex-wife/#comments

pathwhisperer says:

I’m with Holywater (10/10 9:53 am) when she says:

“I think once you’ve been around a p you know the difference- they’re not insane, and once the mask slips, or you catch a glimpse, it’s nothing you’ve ever seen before unless of course you’ve known other p’s.

I recently was asked to prove my p was/is unfit for a position, nothing I said/experienced matter…lucky for me I track him- so I proved through concrete evidence “he says one thing, does another”

Recognising a p is not rocket science.”

It’s that “oh, moment” you look for . . . . To decide if someone may be a s/p I at first follow a rough checklist but then I wait for a gestalt type emotional/mental “click” or “oh, moment.” It is only at that point, if the answer is yes, that I can say ‘yes, that person is a s/p.’ And I agree it is not rocket science, anyone with normal emotional intelligence can do it.

I also agree that to communicate with others you have to concentrate on the s/p’s behavior. The “oh, moment” of recognition is not transferable to others. They have to go through their own emotional/mental processes to get there.

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/10/09/the-sociopath-next-door-probably-not/#comments

The New Yorker writes about researchers’ struggle to study psychopaths

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/10/081110fa_fact_seabrook

. . . Although the story is comprehensive, one of the points made me think that we at Lovefraud have a better understanding of psychopaths than researchers.

“Unlike most academic psychopathy researchers, Kiehl has spent many hours in the company of his subjects. When he meets colleagues at conferences, he told me, “they always ask, ‘What are they like?’ These are guys who have spent twenty years studying psychopaths and never met one.” . . .

This is scary—many researchers in psychopathy never met one? We should consider ourselves better informed, because we’ve all had extremely close encounters with these predators. And we know exactly how the ones who are not in jail behave.

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/11/10/the-new-yorker-writes-about-researchers-struggle-to-study-psychopaths/

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