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This is not acceptable, THIS IS NOT NORMAL.  Sociopaths have no need of privacy, like little children playing with their privates in front the guests.  (For new visitors, this trait (primitive, undeveloped sexuality with privacy unnecessary) is simply an aspect of the devastating arrested development of sociopaths, the primary sociopathic throughline.)

I hate to think what’s ahead when some enterprising bomber shoves explosives up his *ss.

China and Israel do not do this, deeming it ineffective and against norms.  A serious terrorist would use the cargo hold I suppose, but let’s not mention that.  Or walk across the open borders.

In fact, these machines don’t detect the kind of powdered explosives used in January’s attempted underwear bomber attack!”  http://wewontfly.com/opt-out-day/

So if it’s not effective, what is the point? Constitutionally recognized natural rights?  Dignity for the ants in the antfarm?  I don’t think so.

The TSA does offer an alternative, a patdown palm face up with genital contact:

Flight Attendant Tells Her TSA Sexual Assault Story;
Traveler to TSA Agent: “If you touch my junk, I’ll have you arrested.”;  
Welcome to America — TSA Screener Accosts 3 Year Old Child at Security Checkpoint
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New “(Enhanced Pat Downs) require screeners to touch passenger’s genitals”.

There seems to be a common reaction across the political divide:

Americans line up to join ‘no-fly’ list — Tolerance maxed out for TSA security’s voyeurism, molestation, radiation blasts

TSA Agent Sean Shanahan

Child rape charge rocks TSA.

Apparently the TSA also has a problem with sociopathic bullying in the workplace.  Small penis jokes lead to TSA worker beatdown, Rolando Negrin, TSA Worker Arrested, Assaulted Colleague Over Genital Joke.   I can almost hear that sociopathic “cackling jackass laugh.” Actually I have heard that laugh from non-sociopaths, usually the sons of sociopaths.

There is no doubt that actual sociopaths would be attracted to working for the TSA.  The TSA should brain scan all employees, from the most senior to the most junior, for sociopathic brain structures.

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From Profile of the Sociopath:

  • Glibness and Superficial Charm
  • Manipulative and Conning
    They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
  • Grandiose Sense of Self
    Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”
  • Pathological Lying
    Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
  • Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
    A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
  • Shallow Emotions
    When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
  • Incapacity for Love
  • Need for Stimulation
    Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
  • Callousness/Lack of Empathy
    Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
  • Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
    Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
  • Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
    Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
  • Irresponsibility/Unreliability
    Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
  • Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
    Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
  • Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
    Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
  • Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

I should integrate the concept of psychopathic throughlines with the checklist concept.  I’ll add it to my to do list.

In a rough way, I certainly do refer to check lists in my own thinking when considering possible psychopaths/sociopaths.   However it is a mistake to overly rely upon them in my opinion.  It is not possible to successfully follow a reverse engineering cookbook approach — ‘these are the ingredients, so this is the dish.’   I’m not arguing with Dr. Hare’s systemized use of PCL-R with trained raters in a prison setting.  However you will never catch an advanced SAP (socially adept psychopath) with one.  Basically I pay attention to psychopathic levels of arrogance/attitude and look for signs of severe arrested development, i.e., age inappropriate behaviors (even small behaviors), childish thinking patterns, etc.

Checklists can rise to the fore again however, when dealing with SAPs.  If behavior falls apart ( the “adult act” of psychopaths) under certain situations, checklist items can be of great help in recognizing psychopaths.  At one bank I worked at, we had a managing director who was ordered never to attend company parties, his behavior fell apart under the influence of alcohol.  (For those unfamiliar with corporate structure, managing directors are essentially standalone profit centers, they have to be rainmakers (profit-wise) for the company.)  This individual was widely considered to be a wild and crazy, fun guy.  Or sometimes psychopathic individuals will show their true character based on “food chain calculations” — when dealing with those they deem lower, their “inner psychopath” comes out; or when deeming themselves at the top of the food chain, the same occurs.

[A version of the first of the two above paragraphs was here earlier.  I have no idea what happened, perhaps I failed to save it correctly, perhaps there was a technical glitch, or perhaps . . . EGADS!  HAVE I BEEN GASLIGHTED BY A PSYCHOPATHIC HACKER?  “Why no, PW, whatever paragraph are you talking about.  You’ve been so stressed out lately, etc., etc.”  Psychopaths just love gaslighting campaigns, it gives them the “chortle, chortle” response that they cherish.  Gaslighting depends on the target not entertaining seemingly paranoid lines of thought.  Incidentally, I see my external links have disappeared.  I don’t know how that happened.]

At the bottom of the above factsheet, the author says “You may also find more at http://sociopathworld.com/.”  You certainly will, it is a psychopath website.

Finally the author says, “I . . . am not a psychologist and [claim] no special expertise in the subject.”  IMO, no special expertise is needed, or rather, anyone who has had intense emotional experiences with psychopaths does have special expertise.  Everyone needs to know psychopaths are out there and that they will interact with them.  If the so-called experts don’t tell us this, we have to inform each other.

Just came across another worthy checklist site:  The List of Psychopathy Symptoms: Hervey Cleckley and Robert Hare

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What a relief for him, he won’t have to go back to Pakistan and face murder charges.  Talk about incentives.

I visited the court for a day during the trial.  Shahed is certainly a psychopath, imo.  In addition, there were one or two jury members who made me very suspicious.  I would like to have been there during their voir dire.  I suspect the defense lost the case during jury selection.  Justice and truth are completely meaningless to sociopaths.  9 out of 10 times, they will side with power.  99 times out of 100, they will side with a fellow sociopath.

I found the jury’s behavior very odd. It took them almost two weeks to come to a conclusion that most such persuaded juries would have come to in a day or two.  Often the only overt sign of a sociopath/psychopath (the words are used as synonyms, I use “psychopath” when I want a pejorative punch) is the unlikelihood of an outcome.  For example, a young couple who invites (thinking it’s their idea) a sociopath to join them in bed and then spends the next month vomiting and crying over their choice which no longer makes any sense and which destroyed their relationship.  Or, a haberdashery clerk who comes up with the idea of giving a customer a blank check since the customer has mislaid his wallet.  Or, a cop who holds the ladder for a second story man who “lost his key”.  Sociopaths can be very good at what they do.  They’re that good because their brains are different.

I would suggest that the videotapes of Hussain be studied in psychology and criminal science classes — the ins and outs, the subterfuges, the slipperiness, the arrogance, the subtlety of the psychopathic mind.

Even the judge seemed to see through him:

Yes or no!” yelled U.S. District Judge Colleen McMahon as informant Shahed Hussain began to unspool yet another long-winded answer to a direct question.”Mr. Hussain, I’m tired of you playing games with the questions.”   No games, judge tells informant in Newburgh 4 trial

The defense even rattled him and drew out the most amazing claims.  Informer in Bomb Plot Describes His Two Lives including his self-described friendship with and gifts from Benazir Bhutto.

[D]efense lawyer Susanne Brody asked him, “Would you agree that remaining in the United States is worth more than all the money you have been paid for your work as an informant?”

“Yes,” Hussain responded.  Defense Lawyers In Bronx Synagogue Terror Case Call FBI Informant a Lifelong Liar.

It’s hard to imagine a more obvious case of entrapment.  The four suspects on trial had never shown any predisposition for this kind of crime, were involved in no group activity that might have led to any terrorist-like crime.  It seems their only predisposing traits were that they were Black Muslims, poor and also angry.  So they were selected to be seduced into a crime by a psychopath.  They were all essentially random victims chosen by fate to have their lives destroyed. Further their selection was governed simply by a psychopath’s sensing of vulnerabilities — probably the key psychopathic ability.  Is this a reason to destroy four lives?

Ah, but you say, they didn’t know the weapons weren’t real.  Apparently not.  So give them five years or so.  It is a near universal trait of the victims of sociopathic manipulators that they cooperate in their own downfall.  Of course they do.  That’s why the victimizers are called con artists — they are artists at inspiring confidence.

I imagine the psychopath[s] on the jury could have said the same thing, perhaps playing the soul of reasonableness:  ‘But the Newburgh four didn’t know the weapons weren’t real, that makes it attempted murder.’  Yes, but . . .

If you want to count the poor and angry as dangerous, you’ll spend the rest of your days counting.  Newburgh is one of those towns discarded by the forces of de-industrialization and globalization.  Our sociopaths-gone-wild economy with no check on the sociopaths, with no regard for the nation, with no guiding mind assuring that the “economic machine” acts in the interest of the nation’s citizens, with a fierce hatred of a middle class (working people living lives of dignity is an affront to sociopathic superiority, it hurts them) threw Newburgh by the wayside years ago.

Fools who think, ‘well I’m not black and homeless,’ are the biggest suckers of all.  Mass black homelessness was the first salvo against the middle class, engineered by the evil psychopath and pathological liar (pseudologue)  Ronald Reagan.  The conman, the flim flam man wanted you to feel safe.  How safe do you feel now?  But I digress . . .

Perhaps this small anecdote will give a flavor of Newburgh.  Newburgh’s Main Street is very wide with diagonal parking on both sides.  Driving through I always think of small towns in Kansas and the midwest.  The street is now lined with empty store fronts, consignment and self-styled antique shops.  It has been taken over by the “flea market economy.”

Anyway, one time I parked and started walking across Main Street to a high quality chocolate store still in business (Commodore Chocolates, the interior takes you back to the glory days of Newburgh).  Just as I was about to step into the lanes of traffic, this apparently homeless man approached me and asked if I could help him out.  He was somewhere in his thirties, dark skinned but with a reddish tint, as though he had a permanent suntan.  Wearing a fur lined dark brown leather vest with a fur collar, once very expensive but now ineligible even for Newburgh’s consignment stores, he cut a classy figure, even if it was trash-classy.  Obviously that was who he was in his own mind, a man of class and good taste.

Anyway, I turned away to get out my wallet to give him something.  Oh, oh, Citylife 101:  never take out your wallet to give to the homeless, you are inviting a snatch-and-run or a mugging — and he was taller, younger and maybe stronger than I (however, they do tell me there’s a lot of muscle under that fat).  But I couldn’t very well rewind my efforts without appearing a fool — so I decided to “tough it out” and figured I was probably being paranoid anyway (which probably was the case).  When I turned back towards him with a few bucks and the words, “Good luck, pal,” our eyes locked momentarily in a mutually steel-eyed stare.  I don’t know what he was thinking, but perhaps, sensing my sudden wariness, “This bozo is worried, in the middle of Main Street?!”; or perhaps “He has a billfold of money and he gives me three bucks?”; or, but probably not, “I should have snatched and run, that fat man would never have caught me.”  A proud man, forced to beg.

The point of this anecdote is that you can’t get away from the poverty in downtown Newburgh.  There’s often a vibe of suppressed violence.  Even the police seem jittery.  Fortunately the drug trade keeps liquidity in the local economy — I’m being sarcastic, it’s a horrible, but quite common, economic situation.  These were the waters Shahed Hussain was directed to troll for “home grown terrorists”!!?? There’s no terrorism in Newburgh, the poor are too busy surviving scavenger times.

To those who say all that matters is that the four thought the weapons were real, I ask who was responsible for the Heaven’s Gate suicides?  The individuals who did in fact commit suicide or the psychopathic cult leader, Do?

This case is a national disgrace.  And so was the jury.

A recent documentary on destroying lives and families to protect us from terror:   Entrapment or Foiling Terror? FBI’s Reliance on Paid Informants Raises Questions about Validity of Terrorism Cases.

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Ha, that’s a good one.  Actually it’s not a laughing matter, it’s a tragedy for those who believe that.

I’ve known women who, as daughters of sociopaths, only went out with sociopaths.  They were aware of sociopathic traits but seemed to think these traits were simply secondary aspects of maleness.

I’ve also known women who were so needy, disturbed, damaged and so dedicated to their bizarro universe (as are most emotionally disturbed individuals — it’s a very deep psychological choice) that only a sociopath’s mirroring would allow them to feel normal.  In a sense sociopaths take everyone as they are, childish, disturbed, delusional, psychotic, whatever.  Not that there is any charity in the sociopaths’ actions.  Psychological problems simply provide one more lever of manipulation for them — indeed they will often seek out the emotionally impaired specifically because they are easier to con and manipulate.   I would think this dynamic would also work with sociopathic women and impaired men, but I haven’t witnessed this combination personally.

Finally, some individuals teach that there are no differences between the sexes, other than the obvious.  When this belief runs into reality, perhaps the reasoning goes like this:  “Well everyone knows that men and women are identical, . . . but they’re not.  . . .  There must be something wrong with these men, maybe they’re mentally ill.  I know, they’re sociopaths!”  . . .  Or something like that.

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I assume the searcher is asking about percentages, in other words are investment bankers more often sociopathic than the norm?

Well, it just so happens that I spent over twenty years working for Wall Street firms.  A distant second source of employment were law firms.  From my experience I would say that there seems to be a higher percentage of sociopathic bankers than lawyers, which might seem surprising.

I spent at least a year, either as a permanent or freelance, at E.F. Hutton, PaineWebber, Drexel, Salomon Brothers, Lehman Brothers, Union Bank of Switzerland and UBS (after the merger with the dominant partner Swissbank)I was at Drexel during the go-go years when support (operations) staff were buying cars for cash with their bonuses (I was freelance at the time unfortunately).  I was there at then end when support staff were asked to leave a professionals only why-Drexel-is-closing meeting.  I was at Salomon Brothers on Black Thursday, and later, from a computer room, heard names being called out on the trading floor — those called had a half hour to gather their stuff and leave the premises.

Of these banks I personally knew or knew of sociopaths at E.F. Hutton, Lehman Brothers, PaineWebber and UBS.  I strongly suspected Salomon’s Gutfriend’s wife to be a sociopath but I suppose that doesn’t count.  From news stories, I’m sure some of the Drexel senior bankers and executives were sociopathic but I had no personal contact with them and no entry to their offices.  But if one accepts that one can often recognize sociopathic arrogance and attitude at a glance, as I do, then all Wall Street companies with trading floors have sociopathic employees.

In my opinion, E.F. Hutton was actually a sociopathic enterprise led by the sociopath Bob Fomon (this became obvious about Bob Fomon over time and for many reasons).  Sociopaths of the SAP (socially adept psychopaths) variety, cluster.  As permanent children the world is a daunting place for them — or to put it another way, they are all strangers in a strange land.  They will gravitate towards those SAPs who are more able to navigate the outside world.  Low level, unable to defer gratification, astronomically egotistical sociopaths don’t play well with other sociopaths and “King Sociopaths,” those at the center of sociopathic clusters, seem to often resent interacting with other “King Sociopaths.”  Many people believe sociopaths are loners due to these two reasons, I think, but I believe the majority are not.

And of course, a sociopathic enterprise offers the promise of corruption for all.

Bob Fomon had the self control and ability to defer gratification to be a successful sociopath (in the sense of passing for normal and having a successful career) but he was unable to hire other sociopaths of his caliber.  The sociopaths underneath him could not keep their hands out of the cookie jar however.

Sociopathic stories from Hutton:

  • I recall Bob Fomon having a fondness for teenage female company (of legal age) but he felt he had to claim the relationships were platonic.  I don’t believe he found many believers — sociopaths will try the stupidest explanations, any excuse will do.  When he showed up with a foot in a cast, the jokes went that he must have fallen off that red velvet swing.  And at his age.
  • I knew a high vice president who was rumored to be having a long-running affair with a gay manager underneath him.  When I mentioned this to a young female co-worker she said “No that’s not true.  He merely calls him every morning.”  This same young friend had warned me earlier not to believe any rumors that she was having an affair with the same vice president.  Slow on the uptake, I said, “What!  How do you know that?”  Anyway, when the day came that management wanted the gay manager to leave the employment of Hutton but apparently not wanting to fire him directly, the vice president simply took away not only his office but even his desk.  The deskless manager was forced to wander like a ghost until he quit on his own.  I’m sure it was emotionally devastating for him.  Sociopaths seem to enjoy pulling that emotional rug out from under their lovers when they discard them.  An element involved, I believe, is their resenting having been cast as a emotional partner when they feel no emotions and they decide to show that in the end.
  • The check-kiting scandal that brought down Hutton — just what were they thinking?  Of course that was in the day and age that Wall Street banks relied on their reputation and needed their clients to survive as opposed to trading on their own account against their clients.

Sociopathic stories from UBS:

  • I considered more than one high level officer of my division to be sociopathic.  In addition I have never worked with a higher percentage of children of sociopaths.  The children of sociopaths, almost without exception, are deeply, deeply humiliated (without ever recognizing the sociopathicness of the humiliating parent).  The constellation of traits is actually easy to recognize, though sometimes they internalize the sociopathic humiliator to such an extent that they may be taken for sociopaths themselves.  And, of course, they are very comfortable working with sociopaths (as in, being totally oblivious to it).
  • Under the UBS corporate structure, the regional heads had enormous power.  Many became combinations of screaming babies and lord high potentates.  With outside restrictions removed sociopaths know no restraint.  I’m not saying that they all were sociopathic, but more than one were, in my opinion.
  • The junior bankers were often terrorized by these regional heads and would beg us in NYC to go along and do what their bosses wanted.  I would hear such phrases as “He’ll win anyway don’t fight him“, “He just has to have his own way“.  They knew their bosses were screaming babies but they never drew any conclusions.
  • Some managing directors seemed to be very mild mannered to outsiders but their staffs were utterly terrified of disappointing them.  One sees such manipulation by sociopaths often.  Warren Jeffs comes to mind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs).
  • A pathologically lying sociopath (i.e, a pseudologue, the condition is called pseudologia fantastica) found complete safety at UBS for years.  When he was hired he claimed to have just gotten over both leukemia (seemingly, a cancer hoax favorite) and a kidney transplant.  Five years later he brought in a cake one day, saying it was his fifteenth year of remission from leukemia, apparently having forgotten his earlier story.  When confronted he was smooth as silk, an incredible performance.  However others, including management, still protected him.  He was kind of like a Schmoo, anything you wanted in a friend.  But in reality he was the equivalent of a calculating machine always calculating what his object wanted from him — if, a big if, it suited his purposes.  Like all sociopaths he was a genius at getting others to take care of him and quite a few co-workers were heavily emotionally invested in believing in his Schmoo friendship.
  • I believe this same pseudologue found further safety in the embrace of a male sex-party ring, that included members from all levels of employment, that was rumored to exist (ten years worth of rumors and drunken comments).  Also see Not frat boy behavior, sociopathic behavior.    I don’t care what people do in private, but in a corporate setting and with members of management involved such activity is not a private matter.  I believe this ring helped further this pseudologue’s security (not to mention the possibility of explicit or implicit blackmail) and he branched out into puppetmastery, slander and workplace bullying.  The manager whose responsibilities he essentially co-opted was absolutely unaware of it.  She was his biggest devotee — his word was golden, and she seemingly couldn’t stand to disappoint him.  Uncanny.
  • There was something else worth noting about this pseudologue.  In a sense he became a King Sociopath, i.e., one that other sociopaths clustered about and followed.  As a pseudologue he literally had all the certainty of one who makes up their own facts.  (It seems pseudologues know they are lying, but they seem to think everyone is lying and that there is no “real” reality.)  This certainty carried weight with more childish sociopaths (some of whom were much higher than him in the corporate hierarchy) looking for help in dealing with the non-sociopath world.
  • One time a junior banker (later a managing director) came by, all excited that his young children had included him in a discussion of whether folding toilet paper or bunching it up was a better technique.  This was something he could relate to instantly.  Sociopaths, as part of their arrested development, are endlessly fascinated by bodily functions.   “‘[The Manipulator] loves to walk down the street in pride and certainly, knowing he’s but one moment away from an attack of diarrhea.  This makes him unique among the masses.  The Toxick Magician always views his adversary with his head in the toilet bowl“, http://www.scribd.com/doc/11554313/The-Psychopaths-Bible.
  • I recall a junior banker, with a Harvard degree, who was famous for an occurrence of semi-public sex at one of our corporate holiday parties.  He and a very willing, very drunk partner availed themselves of a stairwell with co-workers peaking in amazement around the corner, as I understand it.  She left soon after, but he was there for years, no doubt thinking it was totally normal behavior.  For more on the sociopath’s lack of need for privacy see Menace to society:  Nushawn Williams should be involuntarily committed as a dangerous psychopath.
  • The holocaust gold history of both Union Bank of Switzerland and Swiss Bank, both historical and modern.

Derivatives are a whole other issue — though perhaps more what the searcher had in mind, rather than the vignettes above.  There is no question that derivatives were hatched by a sociopathic mind or a sociopathic modality mind.  The notion of derivatives (essentially insurance but with no need that the buyer be a stakeholder, i.e., they’re sidebets, pure gambling) is grotesquely irresponsible, ignorant of reality, ignorant of cause and effect, ignorant of what drives economies.  Financing is the tail of the dog, not the dog.  The financial service industry has to serve the greater economy.  Obviously if there were trillions of dollars bet on sporting outcomes, the debts would be unenforceable and laughed at.  However the power players are still demanding that derivative bets be paid off, though the value is greater than the world economy.  This is insane, though not to sociopaths. Derivatives are the economic equivalent of perpetual motion machines, another great sociopathic favorite.  Being permanent children scientific cause and effect are beyond them.

Derivatives and the sociopathic philosophy behind them and the insane notion of a riskfree capitalism have crashed the world economy. See Welcome to our sociopaths-gone-wild economy and Commonalities between Wall Street speculators and/or Fed bankers and sociopaths.

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This would do wonders at keeping sociopaths/psychopaths (the terms are equivalent, I use “psychopath” when I wish to be more perjorative) in line.  Most passing sociopaths are very good at assessing risk they just need a reminder now and then.

Menace to society:  Rapist who knowingly spread AIDS must stay locked up

Based on his track record, there is compelling evidence that Nushawn Williams is a sociopathic public menace who must remain confined after finishing a 12-year sentence for statutory rape.

Williams is infected with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. Before his imprisonment, he had sex with scores of women in deliberate attempts to infect them with the deadly disease. Thirteen contracted the virus.

Daily News archives on Nushawn Williams:  http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Nushawn+Williams

As I recall from the original stories he would sometimes have sex with his consorts in public spaces.  Sociopathic development is so primitive there is no reason for privacy to accompany sex — there is no soul intimacy going on.  Like a little child undressing and commencing to play with themself in front of the guests, they can’t imagine what’s wrong — “But it feels so good and natural, whatever could be the matter?”

A note to the young ladies, if you’re invited in front of witnesses to intimate activities, you are not being invited to a soul celebration and as far as your paramour is concerned the activity could be as public as the invitation.  Every male I ever witnessed throwing a very public pass, complete with details, I have come to consider a sociopath.

Spreading AIDs to an HIV infected sociopath is of no more concern than stepping on ants during a nature walk to the rest of us — it goes with the activity.

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It seems this thinking and recognition of sociopaths is spreading.  Those who torture, who enable torture, who give orders of 360 degree field of fire, who rape and murder to frame others are not us.    Undergroundpanther:

And the reason we can’t get along in life with “them” is because they have no empathy, no morals.  All the sociopaths /authoritarians and narcissists, around us are dangerous to our mental health and in places of power they can ruin nations and the world.  THEY are who cause the wars, begin the corruption, cover up the truth and impede investigations into their wrongdoing.  They are the biggest problem facing non-toxic people in this world today.  . . .

The enemy is not in US.  It is in the sociopath/narcissist/authoritarian personality types.  These abusers will use our ethics against us, mimic us, charm us, play our emotions, use rhetoric or lies to gain our pity or trust just to get away with whatever they want to do or get.  . . .

The truth is not warm or fuzzy sometimes.  It goes against some people’s “inherent beliefs” like…  Not all people are “inherently good”, Nor do people “get what they deserve” and it’s a lie that “everyone can change”. Get rid of those silly solopsistic sentiments because it is doing alot to enable the systematic of killing of life on this world by sociopaths/psychopaths/authoritarian and narcissistic otherwise toxic personality types.  . . .

Be careful for whom your heart bleeds for, for some out there are vampires and will feed upon your bleeding soft heart until they kill you, and everything you loved.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×8640697 [Emphases added and edited for simple grammar corrections.]

From the comments:

Odin2005Corporate capitalism is sociopathy institutionalized as civil dogma

Absolutely, give corporations the freedom to be sociopathic with unlimited size and thus power, not only will actual sociopaths rise to the corporate top but a sociopathic world will be forced upon the rest of us.

hfojvt: I tend to agree with Solzhenitsyn “If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them.   But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being.   And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”

Obviously I disagree.  All insane governmental system or war machines pull sociopaths to the fore — sane or insane, sociopaths will adapt effortlessly but they prefer insane which allow sociopathic satisfactions.  Solzhenitsyn was simply blind to this and there is no reason to listen to him here, in my opinion.

WWII and the Holocaust should have educated the world to the presence and importance of sociopaths in the cause of evil and corruption (at least as “wind in the sails”).  Hannah Arendt had it totally wrong, totalitarianism was not about the banality of evil, but about the banality of sociopaths (e.g. Eichmann, who could stack bodies as casually as cords of wood).   I have no respect for her phrase.  I consider it to be exactly the kind of high-falutin’ empty-of-meaning stock phrase and cliche that she accused Eichmann of employing (which he did do as a sociopath in a vain attempt to give meaning to his life and actions).

Finally, I just have to say that any student of sociopathy that doesn’t recognize Eichmann as a sociopath understands nothing about sociopathy — to the point where I wouldn’t even know how to communicate with such a student, since I don’t understand the thinking behind that error.

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"Fallon's brain (on the right) has dark patches in the orbital cortex, the area just behind the eyes. This is the area that Fallon and other scientists say is involved with ethical behavior, moral decision-making and impulse control. The normal scan on the left is his son's."

"Fallon was prompted to study his brain after his mother, Jenny, told him his ancestry was full of alleged murderers."

These photos are from “A Neuroscientist Uncovers a Dark Secret,”  by Barbara Hagerty.  Further quotes from the article:

The criminal brain has always held a fascination for James Fallon. For nearly 20 years, the neuroscientist at the University of California-Irvine has studied the brains of psychopaths. He studies the biological basis for behavior, and one of his specialties is to try to figure out how a killer’s brain differs from yours and mine.  . . .

After learning his violent family history, he examined the images and compared them with the brains of psychopaths. His wife’s scan was normal. His mother: normal. His siblings: normal. His children: normal.

“And I took a look at my own PET scan and saw something disturbing that I did not talk about,” he says.

What he didn’t want to reveal was that his orbital cortex looks inactive.

“If you look at the PET scan, I look just like one of those killers.”

This situation described is very interesting.  There is a whole series on NPR on the criminal brain, Inside the Criminal Brain, Can Genes and Brain Abnormalities Create Killers?, etc.  I caught part of Hagerty’s show on July 6.

The question for me isn’t the criminal brain or serial killer brain, the question is who is a sociopath and who is not.  Who can feel empathy, has a conscience, views other humans as fools to be manipulated for one’s own ends, pleasures and amusement, etc. and who cannot and doesn’t.  Most sociopaths are not serial killers, but many still leave a broad swath of emotional disaster behind them.  Clever sociopaths can rise to high levels in business and government, it’s a question of self control and skill at being hypocritical (at recognizing when it is safe to express the sociopathic hungers, that are always there) — but they still have no shared humanity and no chance of developing any, imo.  The rest of us are so many bugs on the windshield to them.  So are these brain structures relevant or not?

Fallon certainly doesn’t appear to be sociopathic — no sociopathic arrogance comes through the photos, he lacks the classic “hollow eyes,” he has a loving family, etc.  On the other hand, families rarely ever recognize a sociopathic family member.  He looks like such a lovable guy, it’s hard to imagine that he might be a sociopath.  Could he be wearing that persona as a cloak?  If not, then the differences in brain structure illustrated above, which seem to me to be radical, are almost meaningless.

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A comment (https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/the-psychopathic-personality-and-human-evolution-and-why-cant-women-recognize-psychopaths/#comment-1108) got me thinking on this topic.  After thinking about it my answer is ‘not much.’

As I see it, my problem is similar to proving that giraffes live in every town square (assuming of course that they did).  The question wouldn’t be one of proof but rather why couldn’t the majority of people see the giraffes — no “proof” would be sufficient.  My task would be to work on what was stopping individuals from seeing those giraffes.

In the past people, who think they have never known a sociopath and don’t expect to during their lifetimes, have asked me to prove that a mutual acquaintance was a sociopath.  And I have tried to do so.  I wouldn’t bother again.

In this blog I’m trying to “infiltrate” the reader’s thought processes, to plant a seed that may lay dormant until the reader needs the problem-solving knowledge and thought processes that I am offering.  My aim is to get readers thinking about sociopaths, to enable them to recognize the flavor of sociopathy and eventually to get them to develop the tools to recognize them.  But there is no 4-step method to do it, no 1-2-3-understand technique.

In western society we basically believe everything understandable is understandable by everybodyThis is not a bad thing, it has given us the scientific method for example.  But if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work.  It is narcissistic (which is another trait of western society, particularly anglo-saxon) to imagine that dry reason will take us into the depths of the human soul.

In a comment of mine (https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/welcome/#comment-1110) I used the phrase “shiny arrogant faces” and described instant “OMG, that person’s a sociopath” recognitions.  Later I was wondering how that would strike readers.  Well if the reader already relied on flash insights in their life, that would encourage them to continue to do so.  If they did not, I’m trying to tell them that they actually aren’t deaf, dumb and blind.

As a professionally trained non-professional actor (call me a hobbyist if you wish) I believe the power of the human mind is in the subconscious.  In acting you understand your character’s motivations, you give him your soul and life experiences and then you get out of the way.  What makes art art is the expression of truths that can’t be put in words.

Narcissists (those who overvalue the mind/words over the soul/emotions) generally think they are superior to the emotionally driven.  However often they are seeking to simplify their world and avoid the complexities of the soul and human motivations.  Thus they often insist that everyone else should be as deaf, dumb and blind as they are.  I am trying to crack that somehow.

In a sense recognizing sociopaths is akin to blues aficionados stating who they consider to be blues singers and who merely singers of blues songs.  There is nothing democratic or formula-istic about it.  If one is not a blues fan one has no opinion of any import.  In the end the lists will overlap but not to a hundred percent.

Some may object to this comparison on the grounds that it’s not scientific — and absolutely it’s not.  Well if you want science go to brain structure and DNA.  Recognizing sociopaths is a “soul task” — particularly if you wish to be able to sometimes recognize SAPs (socially adept psychopaths) who could never be caught by checklists and/or questionnaires.

The idea that checklists and delineated behaviors could identify sociopaths (particularly highly-intelligent passing or successful SAPs) is akin to asking for rules to know when another means the words, “I love you.” It’s not going to happen (and, as they say, if you have to ask you will never know).  It’s also akin to the judgment-impaired asking for rules to recognize the trustworthy.  Again, an impossibility.  I do pay attention to behaviors and rough checklists but in the end I have to “feel it” to believe that someone is a sociopath.  Actually there are many areas to pay attention to — any sign of arrested development, which covers anything from personality development, sense of humor, to small behaviors and physicality.  But the “flavor of sociopathy” is essential (and I cannot define it) for we all have our child selves still within us and these selves will sometimes come forward.  And finally, certain arrogances, a coldness belying humanity, certain weird eyes, etc.

I think it’s worth mentioning that many of the things I look for as signs of possible sociopathy, I actually often noticed throughout my life.  But if I could go back and talk to my young adult self, my younger self would remain unconvinced.  My younger self would say, ‘I see what you are talking about but why should I believe they mean what you say.  I think they are just relatively minor traits but you say they are signs of a dichotomous form of humanity without a conscience.  I just don’t see it.’

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Sociopaths are in an arrested development state prior to developing pride or shame.  Alvin Greene is playing the role of an idiot.  I’m sure he feels no embarrassment.

Following is the Keith Olbermann interview of Mr. Greene:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxnTYPZOmK0&feature=related

The video within this ABC news piece is discussed below:  http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2010_Elections/alvin-greene-surprise-win-south-carolina-primary-felony/story?id=10867602.

Scott Creighton of the Willyloman blog:

Now if you go to the ABC News article which also has the video interview of Greene in his home, wearing sweat-pants (hmmmm), you can see him babbling about like a mental patient, hunched over when he walks, holding his hands together like Mr. Burns from the Simpsons.

One thing is clear though… he’s acting.  It’s obvious that he is acting because he is not very good at it. Even Jan mentioned when she saw it that he was “putting on”… that it was an act.

I trained as an actor for over 10 years in various schools, worked professionally as a stage actor, directed several plays, even worked on a few films and TV shows in various other capacities… so I know acting when I see it, especially bad acting from someone who has been coached. Alvin Greene has been coached.

His sweat-pants and his tee-shirt were his costume, his hunched over walk is part of his physicality, his parents house and baby picture is the set and props.  The idea is to make people not want to vote for him, to make him look like the biggest loser on the planet.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/picked-to-lose-the-alvin-greene-story/

Alvin Greene has a college degree, had a thirteen year Air Force career.  For a fuller story and background info:  http://www.free-times.com/index.php?cat=1992209084141467&act=post&pid=11861006100935349

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