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I posted this in response to Benjamin Barber’s post at HuffPost, “It’s the ‘Public’ not the ‘Option’ in ‘Public Option’ that Counts,” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/benjamin-r-barber/its-the-public-not-the-op_b_389441.html.  His argument was that the Democrats are losing the war of words in defense of the value of the public sphere or public good by dropping the phrase public option from the healthcare reform (sic) bill.

The fact that the Dems are losing the war of words is symptomatic of a very deep flaw in the Democratic Party, imo. The mental illness at the extreme end of the Democratic Party is narcissism (as opposed to the mental illness of extreme Republicanism, sociopathy, that of the ‘whatever’s for me, is the good” of the Randeroids [Ayn Rand, not Rand Paul, who has turned out to be a hero fighter for the constitution and covid /vaxx sanity].

By narcissism I mean the overvaluing of the mind over the emotions, or the mind over the soul. Narcissism runs the gamut from a lightly worn modality of thought to the rigid malignant narcissism of Peck’s People of the Lie. Narcissists lose the ability to communicate to non-narcissists because they are totally alienated from the “motivations of the soul.” Thus the Democratic Party, by and large, has lost the ability to connect with the working class and vast swaths of middle America.

What’s wrong with Kansas” is not merely a question of what’s wrong with Kansans but also a question of what’s wrong with the Democratic Party that can’t reach Kansans. People will simply not vote for individuals they can’t relate to or who are unable to speak to them in ways that make sense, both intellectually and emotionally. So the conartists of the Republican Party step in [my old self said this].

The war-of-words is lost on too many Democrats (it’s all “bloodless” negotiating to them) as great opera is lost on the tone deaf.

[NOTE:   Originally I was thoroughly a Democratic progressive MSNBC listener.  My conversion happened during the Obama Deception presidency.  Also originally I distrusted the Tea Party.  It now turns out that they are, just about, the Constitution’s only organized defenders.  Occupy, Tahrir Spring, etc. have gone, the Tea Party is still here, congratulations.  Progressives, imo, have proven to be more interested in basking in their own goodness than in dealing with the real world.  Finally I consider today’s Democratic Party to be the retard children led by the evil.  It’s a cult of true believer koolaid drinkers.  August 29, 2022.]

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Why Is the Whistleblower Who Exposed the Massive UBS Tax Evasion Scheme the Only One Heading to Prison?

A former banker for the Swiss giant UBS who blew the whistle on the biggest tax-evasion scheme in US history is preparing to head to prison tomorrow to begin serving a forty-month federal sentence. Bradley Birkenfeld first came forward to US authorities in 2007 and began providing inside information on how UBS was helping thousands of Americans hide assets in secret Swiss accounts. We speak with his attorney, Stephen Kohn [of the National Whistleblowers Center], the executive director of the National Whistleblowers Center.

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/7/why_is_the_whistleblower_who_exposed

UBS Whistleblower Begins Jail Sentence

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/11/headlines#12

Can’t call the criminal hypocrites on their true actions now, can we?  Encrypted PCs, what encrypted PCs?

From my post, Sociopathic throughlines (https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/sociopathic-through-lines/):

“What then separates the SAPs [socially adept psychopaths] from the failed (and caught) sociopaths? . . .  The continuum is a scale of talent at being hypocritical.  The advanced SAPs are simply magnificent hypocrites – able to bide their time, be patient, realistically assess their position in the food chain (the concept of the food chain is central to sociopath life stories), restrain their arrogance, desire for dominance and rudeness and wait for opportunities without consequence for indulging their sociopathic wants, etc.  Hypocrisy is simply their main lifetool, as swimming is the main lifetool for a fish.”

Earlier related post:  https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/ah-so-thats-why-ubs-had-us-study-how-to-prevent-money-laundering/

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AP / Adem Hadei

An Iraqi woman takes her dead son into her arms. The 6-year-old was killed on the way home from enrolling for his first year of school.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_pictures_of_war_you_arent_supposed_to_see_20100104/

“BUGSPLAT” PREDICTS BOMBS’ IMPACT

U.S. military has developed new software that more accurately predicts the impact of a bomb . . . named “Bugsplat”

http://defensetech.org/2003/02/22/bugsplat-predicts-bombs-impact/

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“A defendant’s fMRI brain scan has been used in court for what is believed to be the first time.

Brain scan evidence that the defense claimed shows the defendant’s brain was psychopathic was allowed into the sentencing portion of a murder trial in Chicago, Science reported Monday. Brian Dugan, who had been convicted of the rape and murder of a 10-year-old, was sentenced to death, despite the fMRI scans.”

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/11/brain-scan-murder-sentencing/

The intent of the defense was to claim that the defendant was not fully culpable due his psychopathyDid this strategy work?  Of course not. In the real world, do individuals ever forgive or absolve of responsibility their victimizers upon realizing the victimizer is a psychopath?  No.

fMRI Evidence Used in Murder Sentencing

Dugan exhibits the antisocial behavior, inpulsivity, lack of remorse, and other characteristics of psychopathy in spades, says Kent Kiehl, a neuroscientist at the University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, and the Mind Research Network, who served as an expert witness for the defense. Dugan scored 37 out of 40 points on the standard diagnostic checklist for psychopathy, putting him in the 99.5th percentile, Kiehl says.

Kiehl conducts research on psychopathy in New Mexico state prisons in which he and colleagues collect life histories, anatomical brain scans, and fMRI scans of brain activity as inmates perform various tasks, including tests of moral reasoning. Using scanners at Northwestern University, Kiehl ran Dugan through a similar battery of tests. Kiehl testified that Dugan exhibited abnormalities similar to those he and others have reported in other psychopaths. Kiehl says he was careful not to stretch beyond what the data show. He didn’t claim, for example, that the brain scans prove that Dugan committed his crimes as a result of a brain abnormality. “It’s just one piece of evidence that his brain is different,” he says.

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[from the comments] I think it would be easier to sentence such a total psychopath to death because he is missing an essential piece of whatever it is that makes us human.

http://blogs.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2009/11/fmri-evidence-u.html.

I think that comment reflects the way people really think.

These legal strategists need to get out in the real world more.  Maybe take a Greyhound bus from Harrisburg, PA to Omaha, NE or just have beers at the corner bar more often.

Basically I like the idea of brain scans being brought into court — but for the exact opposite reason.  I think the psychopathic guilty would be found guilty more often than they are now.  And that they would be put away for longer sentences.  Juries would know that they weren’t dealing with daily reality.  I believe juries try very hard to walk in the shoes, place themselves in the position of the accused to try to understand the accused’s behavior.  But this assumes that the psyche they are trying to get into is similar to theirs.  This is simply not true for psychopaths.  Thus juries would have to think differently in approaching guilt and innocence in  trials of psychopaths — which I believe they could and should do.

Now obviously there could be a danger of such a situation being too prejudicial.  So this idea would need to be fine tuned, tried out with sample juries, etc. or confined to the most serious crimes or crimes with a high potential of psychopathic actors.  Perhaps it could be restricted to such felonies as pedophilia, child murder, rape and murder.

It would also open up the possibility of involuntary commitment of psychopathic individuals of danger to society, which would have different standards of evidence from a legal trial.  For example, the prolific serial killer Dr. Swango (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Swango) should have been incarcerated in a mental hospital years earlier than when he was eventually found guilty.

Michael Swango, M.D.

For some background info and links:  Neurolaw and Psychopath (http://lawneuro.typepad.com/the-law-and-neuroscience-blog/2009/08/neurolaw-and-psychopathy.html).   The Law and Neuroscience Blog seems to think that brain/genetic research on psychopaths will “change our perception of their moral and legal culpability.”  We shall see.  I predict the exact opposite.

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Quinn Gray

The happy couple

Wealthy Wife Fakes Kidnap to Scam Hubby

video:  http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/11/10/ng.wife.abduction.cnn
transcript:  http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0911/09/ng.01.html

Ponte Vedra Mom Held On $1 Million Bond

Investigators Unravel ‘Complex, Bizarre’ Case

ST. AUGUSTINE, Fla. — A 10-day investigation into a reported abduction over the Labor Day weekend led detectives to sex tapes, discussions of fake kidnappings, ransom notes, money drops gone wrong and two arrests — including the woman who claims to be the victim.

Quinn Gray, the 37-year-old Ponte Vedra Beach woman who said she was kidnapped and released three days later, was arrested Wednesday afternoon and charged with extortion.

. . .

According to the arrest report, Jasmin Osmanovic delivered two letters to Gray’s home saying he was owed $50,000. He also told investigators that he had a sexual relationship with Gray and the couple spent that weekend together.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/20962746/detail.html#

Husband Sticking By Wife’s Side

http://www.news4jax.com/news/21543262/detail.html

The victimized spouses of sociopaths/psychopaths often are the most ardent defenders of  the victimizing psychopath.  To do otherwise, to face the facts would be to see that every word, look, touch, backrub, sexual union was a fraud.  They were in a relationship/marriage with their own fantasy, which the psychopath “read” and played into — until the psychopathic partner wanted out.

Reid Gray is standing by his wife.

Appearing on the “Today” Show this morning, Quinn Gray’s husband admitted he’s hurt and confused, but he’s supporting Quinn’s defense against extortion charges.

“It’s because she’s mentally ill that I have to stick by her.  The minute you put the divorce hat on, the next second you put on this is a family member who has a mental illness, and I can’t abandon that person”.

http://wokv.com/localnews/2009/11/reid-gray-stands-behind-his-wi.html

Timeline and other details:  http://www.news4jax.com/news/21576839/detail.html#related

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Quoting Liberty from Lies quoting Kathy Krajco:

Facing Facts

One reason why the victims don’t face facts about a narcissist is because we don’t want to face the fact that we mean nothing to them. The ego doesn’t want to know that. For, being valued by another at absolute zero is a degrading value judgement.

When this is someone in your family, that fact is traumatic. We think about how much we have loved them, how often we have stuck up for them, how many times in the past we sacrificed for them. And here all along they cared NOTHING for us in return!

They just fed off us like a parasite, taking us for a sap.

This is why denial is so dangerous. Facing facts, no matter how unpleasant, is better. Because when you do address the issue in your mind, you see who is degraded by the narcissist’s refusal to relate humanly to human beings.

Not the human beings, that’s for sure.

Knowing that makes you able to accept the truth about them. And when you accept the truth about them, you break the cycle of abuse.

Kathy Krajco [who passed away unexpectedly and suddenly]

http://libertyfromlies.blogspot.com/2009/11/facing-facts.html

What Kathy termed narcissists I would term sociopaths (or psychopaths).

From transsociopathica:

For a normal human being at the end of a relationship with a Demonic Sociopath Entity, one of the most startling aspects/horrors of them ending a relationship with you is how they can literally switch you off as if you never existed.

http://transsociopathica.blogspot.com/

One of the reasons that narcissists are often confused with/considered sociopaths is that they can do the above also.  Without going into it here, I think narcissism is a deep psychological choice but sociopathy is an alternate genetic arrangement.

I often feel I should be spending more time posting, but as you can see there is a lot out there.

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This is the first time I’ve ever seen this search.  All I can say, the most extreme female sociopath I’ve ever known said cats and dogs hated her.  Was this just something unique to her or do dogs and cats have some innate sense of fairplay?  Did they recognize her as a rapacious, reptilian-minded predator?  I don’t know.  [More in the comments below.]

Other searches

Pseudologia fantastica in real person: Yep, it’s real alright.  Actually if one is not immediately caught up and swept away by the pseudologue’s “pity play” then they are more obvious than regular sociopaths — their stories are so extreme and fantastical.

How to get a workplace sociopath to leave: Good luck.

How to let go of a sociopath: This will happen when your soul (not your mind) realizes there is no soul in the other person.  If this doesn’t happen, perhaps the other person is not a sociopath or perhaps you are actually fighting a realization that one of your parents is sociopathic ($50 please).

Or in the emotional immediacy of transsociopathica‘s words:

A few months after you have recovered you will wonder what you ever saw in these things. They will rapidly seem cold, ugly, empty, pathetic, distorted and almost deformed to you. That’s because this is what they are, always were, and you are finally perceiving them in their real unmasked state. This ‘broken beast’ is all that’s left and the only memory you’ll have of them going into the future. It’s all they deserve, because it is all they are.  http://transsociopathica.blogspot.com/2009/10/farewell-my-sociopath-hello-real-love.html

Sociopath at parties: Due to few inhibitions and no shame they can be real lives of the party.  Read “The Incredible Charlie Carewe” (http://www.amazon.com/incredible-Charlie-Carewe-Mary-Astor/dp/B00005W69S). Some are also very, very skillful at party crashing. (https://kat.cr/the-incredible-charlie-carewe-mary-astor-mobi-t7972573.html, https://openlibrary.org/books/OL5798604M/The_incredible_Charlie_Carewe).

Sociopath and blackmailing: Goes together like ham and eggs.  They love crimes without consequence.

Pictures of  Thomas Capano: Hmmm.  This is a repeat search.  He’s the only one of my blog’s possible sociopaths (more than possible in his case) whose picture people seem particularly interested in.  I don’t know why.

I was with a sociopath for 8 years…why? For one thing, since no one is ever informed of this possibility as they are growing up or upon reaching romantic age, it often takes years for someone to realize their situation.  Also, as the sociopath often cons relatives of the non-sociopath, individuals in your position are really on their own.  Addressing this is one of the main missions of my blog.

You have a lot of company.  Ann Landers was married for thirty years to the sociopath, in my opinion of course, Jules Lederer (who she described as the best salesman in the world).  They met while she was shopping for a wedding dress for her upcoming marriage to another person.  Just the kind of challenge that might appeal to a “super” sociopath.  Also, as I recall, her sister, Dear Abby, criticized her after the divorce for not understanding her husband.

Are sociopaths giving to neighbors and friends? I have witnessed such behavior, but it was only used to engender goodwill to set up later depredations.  Like a “pity play” (all sociopaths excel at inducing people to feel sorry for them) it brings people to their side emotionally.  Often, it seems, they want a reservoir of protectors before they commit their antisocial depredations (such as date/friend rape, “dress gray” rape, tricking a teen neighbor into prostitution, outright thievery, “murder by suicide” bullying (this is no exaggeration), blackmail, etc.).  They want the accuser to be met with angry disbelief (anger that such a nice person would be accused).  Not only do they wish to protect themselves through “plausible lies,” they want to place their victims in the position of having to claim “implausible truths.”

Can God change a sociopath? The short answer is no.  That would be akin to changing a stone into a block of wood, or lead to gold.  If the question is actually can sociopaths be lead to see the error of their ways and cease being sociopaths, unfortunately the answer is absolutely not.  Sociopaths have their own nature, they are the way they are born to be.  “Socially acceptable psychopaths” (SAPs) who, by definition are capable as passing in normal society, can choose whether or not to follow society’s norms and laws but they can’t feel them.  Justice and empathy are just empty words, even to them.  This searcher might be interested in the post,  More structural brain abnormalities seen in psychopaths.  I think its clear that most sociopaths are born with these brain structures.  Related posts on psychopathy/sociopathy brain structures:  https://pathwhisperer.info/2014/12/09/psychopathy-marker-neurodevelopmental-marker-for-limbic-maldevelopment-in-antisocial-personality-disorder-and-psychopathy/https://pathwhisperer.info/2011/11/29/criminal-minds-will-testing-the-brain-even-before-birth-separate-the-good-seeds-from-the-bad/https://pathwhisperer.info/2015/02/01/psychopaths-brains-dont-grasp-punishment-scans-reveal/https://pathwhisperer.info/2014/02/03/post-redux-what-the-heck-are-these-brain-structures-meaningful-or-not/https://pathwhisperer.info/2015/09/18/test-all-presidential-candidates/.

Drifter & sociopath: The drifters and rolling stones of life are in fact often sociopaths, driven by boredom and lack of emotional bonds.  Boredom is simply one of their prime driving forces.  Thus the backwaters, catch basins and outposts of empires or large nations have a much higher sociopathic percentage — for example, California, Australia and New Zealand.

Will my baby be born a sociopath?: Here’s a heart breaker.  From the little I know, it seems the genetics of sociopathy is very complex.  I’ll try to look into this further.  If this searcher was attracted to a sociopath because one of her parents was sociopathic the odds aren’t good.

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For those unfamiliar with Alice Miller or her thinking I’ve summarized her thinking in two sentences (as I understand it).  First, individuals when they become parents, all too often seek to answer their own psychological neediness by “feeding” off the child, rather than answering the child’s own psychological needs — this pattern can last for generation upon generation.  Secondly, children only know they are entitled to their emotions if an adult mirrors these emotions.  I believe these two ideas to be extremely powerful.  The first one shows a way out from the phenomenon of generations of dysfunctional families.  The second promises the possibility of training “witness for soul” therapists as opposed to the hit or miss current system, in which capable therapists are essentially individual accidents.

Dear Alice Miller,

Some ten years back, I read and studied quite a number of your works.  Since that time I have, on my own, studied, thought and written about psychopaths.  I don’t recall much mention of psychopaths in your works but I don’t expect you to believe they are born, not made.  However, I don’t actually know that, this is just a surmise.  I’m very curious to know your view of psychopathy, if you have a chance to answer this.

I don’t see a contradiction between your thinking and the existence of genetic psychopaths.  Quoting my blog, “When one considers all the seemingly conscienceless and subtracts the attachment disordered, the narcissistically rigid, and the hideously abused and needy, there is still a core of the emotionally/morally colorblind, a.k.a. the Cleckley psychopath (from Cleckley’s Mask of Sanity), a.k.a., the Charlie Carewe psychopath (from the actress Mary Astor’s The Incredible Charlie Carewe).” https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/past-notes/.

I, and others, see psychopaths as developmentally arrested psychologically — but up through puberty they go through most of the same psychological developmental stages.  So following this line of thought, I would say that Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer were serial killers due to psychological abuse, their psychopathy simply made them extremely skillful at it.  Unclaimed and left in the hospital, as described in their bios, they screamed for their primal birthright, loving maternal attention, until their tear ducts dried up and their psyches came to realize that help was not on the way.  Left with vast, unplacated, infantile rage which went subterranean to reappear again and again throughout life but now with an adult’s capabilities and, in their cases, a psychopath’s talents.  Serial killers are created in infancy, I assume you agree.

Perhaps you would also be interested in my posts on incest, I believe I have adopted your view of psychological cause and effect:  https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/incest-dad-represents-self-in-court-cross-examines-daughter/ & https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/post-redux-josef-fritzl-and-reflections-on-incest-52308/.

I look forward to your reply.

Thank you,

The Path Whisperer

For more information on Alice Miller and her writings:  http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_3_12?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=alice+miller+prisoners+of+childhood&sprefix=alice+miller&sprefix=alice+miller&sprefix=alice+miller&sprefix=alice+miller, http://www.alice-miller.com/index_en.php.

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John and daughter Mackenzie Phillips

John Phillips and daughter Mackenzie

Can Incest Be Consensual?

Mackenzie Phillips Highlights the Impact of Incest

When Mackenzie Phillips dropped her bombshell during an episode of Oprah, revealing that she had had an incestuous relationship with her father, John Phillips, for 10 years, controversy swirled. The revelation came on the heels of the publication of Phillips’ memoir “High on Arrival,” in which she accuses “Papa John” of The Mommas and the Papas of molesting her when she was 18.

Though Phillips says she doesn’t remember if the incident at age 18 was the first time her father acted inappropriately with her, she acknowledges the sexual relationship continued for another decade and eventually became consensual.  . . .

Thomas Nagy, Ph.D. . . . says . . . “When the victim encounters that abuser again in adulthood, in that moment, they’ve dissociated into an adolescent mindset again,” he points out. That’s why it’s so important for victims of abuse to seek and stick with therapy for the long haul. “These victims have to grow boundaries and learn how to find a sense of self again.”

“It’s always traumatic in the long run,” Nagy adds, whether the incest begins when a child is six or 17. “It’s child abuse, and there is no such thing as consensual sex with a child.”

http://www.aolhealth.com/condition-center/mental-health/mackenzie-phillips-incest?icid=main

No, incest can never be consensual — even if child is an excited participant.  Incest is the vampire father feeding off the child’s soul by abusing the psychologically normal and healthy “family romance.”

That said, when the child later works through the events, the child, now an adult, must acknowledge the participant aspect.  The situation is not expressed simply by the terms incest victim or survivor, incest participant is the usual reality.  (Incest rape, paradoxically, may be easier for the child to handle psychologically.  The monsterhood of the father would not be hidden in that case.)  The problem is that the child throughout her life is forever caught in the crossfire of love, desire, shame and humiliation — thus many spend their lives chased by psychological ghosts — expressed through drugs, affairs, broken marriages, etc.  Mackenzie Phillips is to be lauded for making her story public.

Failure of the adult incest victim to come to terms with the willing participant aspect will leave her prey to predators.  Sooner or later a sociopathic or other seducer will come along who senses the father’s approach.  The adult child will have no choice but to dance to the music.  In the psychological universe there are few things uglier than an adult incest victim discovering she’s still enslaved by the incest trap, years after thinking she was free.

Phillips says she doesn’t remember if the incident at age 18 was the first time” I believe she’s being untruthful.  One shouldn’t expect incest victims to be straightforward in divulging their stories.  Indeed she would sometimes tell relatives, then later claim she was joking.  Also it seems she is still protecting her father — who she still loves and whose love for her she still believes in.

Bijou was only 13 when her older sister told her the shocking story.   . . .   Her confusion was only compounded when “shortly there after Mackenzie told me it didn’t happen.”  http://www.popeater.com/2009/09/25/chynna-and-bijou-phillips-support-their-sister-with-regrets/

or

The Mamas and the Papas singer Michelle Phillips, who married John in 1962, claims that Mackenzie revealed the affair in 1997 – but told her stepmom she was joking. “She called me back and said, ‘You know I’m joking,'”  http://www.popeater.com/2009/09/24/michelle-mackenzie-phillips/

An overview can be found here:  http://www.oprah.com/dated/oprahshow/oprahshow-20090826-mackenzie-phillips

Finally I doubt very much that it is that rare for incest to continue into a woman’s adulthood.  Why should it stop?  We need a closer study of this occurrence.

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Our Embassy in Afghanistan Is Guarded by Sexually Confused Frat Boys

. . . security contractors get their kicks peeing on one another, simulating anal sex, doing “butt shots,” and “eating potato chips out of ass cracks.”

. . . According to POGO, employees of ArmorGroup North America—a unit of contracting giant Wackenhut—get their jollies off by “deviant hazing [that] has created a climate of fear and coercion, with those who declined to participate often ridiculed, humiliated, demoted, or even fired.”

http://gawker.com/5350465/our-embassy-in-afghanistan-is-guarded-by-sexually-confused-frat-boys/gallery/?skyline=true&s=x

Think six to eight year old boys’ sex play.  Then add “peeing on one another,” “butt shots” — sociopaths are simply fascinated by the orifices of sex and waste elimination being identical or in close proximity.  Their level of sexual maturity and development is that low.  See the sex scenes of the wooden puppets in the movie Team America, complete with defecation and urination.

I would imagine that the sex play went further than this.  Ah yes, story below.

Kabul U.S. Embassy Guard: Sexual Deviancy Required for Promotion

Whistleblower Says Bosses Required Sex Acts for Guards Seeking Best shift, Promotion

Private security guards at the U.S. Embassy in Kabul were pressured to participate in naked pool parties and perform sex acts to gain promotions or assignment to preferable shifts, according to one of 12 guards who have gone public with their complaints.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=8474937

OK, think boyhood sexplay with orgasms, bullying and dominance thrown in — even more sociopathic.  This sexual bullying by superiors makes this story no longer private, but actionable.  It’s not about what people do in private.

These male sex parties/orgies have also been reported from the Jim Bakker/PTL scandals and the Stanford White scandal.  To quote from my UBS Musings page (https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/ubs-musings/):

Sociopaths essentially are pansexual.  Since friction orgasms are all they know or can know, the more variety the better.  All cats are gray in the dark.  The sociopathic architect Stanford White (of “Red Velvet Swing” notoriety) had numerous affairs (one led to his murder by a rival), molested his own daughters and hosted male group sex parties at his architectural firm [http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1996/07/08/1996_07_08_049_TNY_CARDS_000376111] (no doubt some of the participants were heterosexual life style males who developed a taste for such behavior by being incested by their own sociopathic fathers).  Imagine such a group sex party network in an investment bank.

Indeed, there were rumors that approached “common knowledge” that such a ring existed at UBS when I worked there.  It may seem difficult to imagine responsible adult males in positions of authority taking part but the photos accompanying the Kabul story, which included supervisors and managers, may make it less difficult.

The only reason sociopaths are considered adults is due to their adult bodies, imo.  Quoting Robert Kegan from an earlier post:

Robert Kegan in “The Child Behind the Mask: Sociopathy as Developmental Delay.” In W. H. Reid, J.W. Bonner III, D. Dorr, and J.I. Walker (Eds.) “Unmasking the Psychopath“. (New York: W.W. Norton), 1986. (1986), p.  68:
The sociopath can sit still, inhibit immediate aims, defer gratification.  Indeed, if he did not have these abilities (which most latency-age children also have), people would not confuse him with an adult even with his adult-looking body (which most latency-age children do not have, and which has more to do with why latency-age children are not confused with adults than people realize).  [Kegan is saying, I believe, that it is the sociopath’s adult looking body that gets him into the door of adult life which he is actually unsuited for and absolutely untrustworthy in.]  https://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2009/02/21/how-could-mado…s-for-13-years/

One thing I’ve noticed is that participants are relatively often married family men.  Perhaps they were molested by sociopathic, or otherwise corrupt, fathers and then took a liking to it (a totally normal reaction paradoxically).  Or some I knew to be graduates of aristocratic boarding schools.  I don’t know what sex games take place in these schools but I can imagine.

It seems that there may be a window of plasticity in early puberty.  Thus after male to male sexual activity during pubescence, the taste remains for recreational male to male sex throughout life. While in other cultures and times this is completely normal (the ancient Greeks perhaps), in this culture the participants are exposing themselves to potential blackmail.  And, of course, sociopaths and pseudologues with their immature sexual development are absolutely attracted to these sex game circles.  Further, blackmail is a natural for a sociopath seeking power or security and such a sex circle would allow both outright and implied blackmail.

Sometimes gay communities will be fully accepting of sociopaths due to their alternate sexuality.  However individual gay lovers will of course be as devastated as straight lovers upon being discarded by their emotionless, predatory chameleon lovers as easily as one turns a page of a book, who they had believed they had been close to.  The survivor blogs, the WTF-happened-to-me blogs, the how-come-I-didn’t-know blogs almost always include gay posters.  E.g., Indigo Blue at the Lovefraud blog:  “It reflected True male beauty but on the inside was rot and emptyness and longing, hopelessness,depravity,envy,greed,anger,madness!” http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/10/20/revisions-and-enhancements-to-lovefraudcom/#comment-14448.

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